Trump Sentencing Megapost:
Trump Sentencing Megapost:
The sentencing procedure for our first criminally convicted felon President is due to begin at 9:30 AM Eastern/6:30 AM Pacific.
Let's keep all the comments and posts wrangled here.
Live coverage should be... Oh, I'm just going to say "everywhere". CNN, MSNBC, etc. etc. This is history so everyone should have it.
Edit As expected, Trump is appearing remotely.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-sentencing-01-10-25/index.html
Prosecution is asking for more time to read the probation report, apparently they haven't read it yet.
Prosecution wants "Unconditional Discharge" then layed out every reason why it shouldn't be unconditional. Trump showed no remorse, believes he's above the law, that the court has no authority over him.
Defense is now making their presentation.
Trump is now speaking, underlining everything the Prosecution stated. Unrepentant, defiant, disrespectful.
Judge Merchan is addressing the court and CNN cuts away to cover California. LOL.
No live broadcasting the sentencing, but audio will be available after.
7:09 AM - Sentenced to Unconditional Discharge.
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So .. his sentence is literally nothing?
As a convicted felon, he has the same restrictions felons have, but that's it.
Surely this means the party of law and order won't support him, right?
Right?
...right?
Across the street from my development is a retired cop who has a nursery/lawn care business staffed with Mexicans and had a giant, "I'm voting for the felon."
Do state-level felonies follow to other states?
It varies depending on the restriction.
Gun ownership is a federal restriction, so he can't legally own a gun in any state.
New York restores voting rights to felons on release provided they re-register, Florida, where Trump lives, follows the convicting state rules.
So, in theory, all he has to do is re-register and that is cleared.
https://www.nycourts.gov/courthelp/criminal/publicOfficeConsequences.shtml
"If you have been convicted of a felony or misdemeanor you may be barred from public office jobs, like a police officer, firefighter, court officer, or notary public. Public offices also include elected and appointed offices, like governor, judge, legislator, and local supervisors and commissioners. Police officers, corrections officers, parole and probation officers and district attorneys are also public offices. But, public office doesn’t always mean a job working for the city or state. If you think you may want a public office job, or you hold one now, it is important to find out if your misdemeanor or felony conviction will prevent you from having the job."
The office of the President is not restricted in that way. So while Trump may no longer be qualified for Dogcatcher, nothing prevents him from being President.
Gun ownership is a federal restriction, so he can’t legally own a gun in any state.
And yet he gets to control the nuclear football. WTactualF.
That could be a really interesting argument, actually. Strictly speaking, is there anything about "controlling a weapon" with the way the law is written? Or just about owning a gun? Or possession of a weapon? If someone, for example, handed a controller for an armed drone to a felon who could not have a gun, is that a loophole?
Edit: thinking about this a little more and looking into it, the president is Commander in Chief of the military. The military does not generally allow felons, but there is a waiver for that. I think that if push came to shove, there could be a pathway there.
Strictly speaking, is there anything about “controlling a weapon” with the way the law is written? Or just about owning a gun? Or possession of a weapon? If someone, for example, handed a controller for an armed drone to a felon who could not have a gun, is that a loophole?
It depends... how much money and how many slavish cult followers do you have?
Nuking the superbowl isn't going to work as a false flag event. But you have to understand that these people aren't playing with a full deck of cards and are trying to get a Royal Flush.
Me neither, but at least I'm playing Uno.
He’s never entering a voting booth again in his life. He gives a fuck about no one but himself.
Bullshit. Florida allows exemptions to that law. Do you think Rhonda Santis won't allow an exemption for him?
Besides, his residence" is literally not allowed to be a residence, so he's been committing voter proud for a long time.
No what I’m saying is he has no motivation to vote again because his name won’t be on the ballot.
Any other time in history, I'd agree with you,
"Hello, how nice of you to show up. Prosecution has proven you did a bad thing. The law says this bad thing is punishable, but since you think it is not proven we defer to your opinion and will not bother you with repercussions for your actions. Sorry to have wasted your time and have a nice day"
Yeah and they set the stage with the charges that were all not subject to mandatory sentencing. This is what they were looking for the entire time.
No, they set the stage when they took a zillion years to bring up charges in the first place. They could have brought these charges up in 2020 when he left office but they decided to sit on the case forever.
It did take to long but im not sure 2020 is realistic. The investigation was necessary and it does have to take awhile to be thorough. If not you get the opposite problem were the case is not tight enough.
The crimes occured in 2015. It was national news. They had five years.
yeah there were some road blocks around then to deal with.
Yup.