What successful or popular movie that many loved you just HATE?
Rules: explain why
Ready player one.
That has to be one of the cringiest movies I've seen, is tries so hard, too hard with it's "WE LOVE YOU NERD, YOU'RE SO COOL FOR PLAYING GAMES AND GETTING THIS 80S REFERENCE" message and the whole "corporation bad, the people good" narrative seems written for toddlers... The fan service feels cheap and adds nothing to the story.
Finally, they trying to make the people believe that very attractive girl with a barely visible red tint spot on her face is "ugly"... Like wtf?
Yet it received decent reviews plus being one of the most successful movies of that year.
I know I'll get shit, but Pulp Fiction sucks. It's not about anything, Bruce Willis adds nothing to the film at all, and it's confusing to watch without having any real reason to be or payoff.
The worst part is that it's one of those things where if you don't like it, the fans just belittle you and claim you're "Just not smart enough to get it man." or they'll be passive aggressive about it. "Oh it's okay, my ditzy blonde girlfriend doesn't get it either." or "Not every movie can be about guns and shit, I know you stopped paying attention after the opening."
It's a shame because it was hyped up to me as one of the best movies of all time, and I try to watch it thinking this time it will click, this time I can see what the fuss is about.
And each time, it's just as terrible as I remember for all the same reasons as last time.
While on this subject
It's a TV Show and not a movie, but I legitimately believe Andor is one of the worst pieces of Star Wars media ever created and if given the choice I'd sooner watch the Holiday Special because at least it's entertainingly bad. Instead of being a god damn hour straight of characters marching like they're at a military parade just to get to a boring shoot-out at a heist where everyone dies, only unlike when everyone dies in the heist in Rogue One, I don't shed a single tear because everyone involved with said heist has done absolutely nothing but bitch at Andor for not being "one of the cool kids" so if I'm feeling any emotion it's annoyance that my time getting to know these losers was completely wasted and relief that such unlikable characters are dead.
But hey, at least it only ruined Cassian Andor, it could have ruined someone who's been in more than one movie like Book of Boba Fett did. Ya know what Boba Fett's "book" is called in this show; Character Assassination: A How-To Guide
I don't know how you ruin a character who's done nothing but say "He's no good to me dead" in one movie, and have a retconned-in-most-continuities death in the next, but leave it to Disney's second Dark Age to find a way. But hey, at least every one agrees that Book of Boba Fett is trash instead of kissing the ground it walks on like Andor. So there's that.
Andor is a show so bad that there's a character named Cyril who's entire existence is dedicated to scenes where he eats Cereal. Absolute trash.
Anyway getting back to how the pulp of orange juice is more fun to watch than Pulp Fiction, Quentin Tarantino is a hack who sucks at every aspect of film making that isn't writing dialogue. Resevoir Dogs was okay though.
My controversial take? Boba Fett doesn’t have enough personality in the movies for the show to be able to ruin him. He appears, does shit all, and then dies like an absolute chump. There’s no reason for him to have the huge cult following he does, unless you’re looking to extended universe non-canon stuff anyway.
Oh I agree that he's overrated and a zero note character, and Book of Boba Fett STILL character assassinated him. The show made him entirely ignorant to how criminal organizations work despite him working so closely with Jabba literally his whole life, like more naivety than would be expected of an adult in this universe.
They acted like Jake Lyold's Anakin was made a crime boss
Pulp Fiction is subversive and meta. I loved it when it came out, but I'm scared to watch it again today - I'm not a big Tarantino fan anymore.
When it comes to Andor and Pulp Fiction, I can see some similarities. Could it be that you don't appreciate the counter-cinematic approach of including everyday life scenes in the storytelling? They make the plot move more slowly and can seem just out of place and odd.
I personally like them, because they help me understand the characters and world they live in.
I mean in Pulp Fiction, there are some good scenes and amazing dialogue. I will admit that some of the best moments are things like Samuel L. Jackson talking about cheeseburgers, John Travolta going out to dinner with Mrs. Wallace, or Tarentino himself just having coffee while trying to figure out the situation. I like these scenes because in a movie that straight up does not care about trying to be entertaining, having a point, or telling a story, at least something memorable is going on.
I hate Tarentino, not because he has no talent, but because the only skill he seems to possess is writing dialogue, and basically nothing else.
My problem is that the movie ultimately doesn't tell a story about Jules and Vince, it just kind of meanders and goes nowhere. Nothing is ever actually done with these characters. Mia bonds with Vince and then has an overdose, so I'm glad we got to spend time knowing her, don't I just feel like we accomplished something there? As for Vince and Jules, Jules quits, Vince dies in a bathroom, oh and some guy named Marvin gets carted off to the deceased African American storage that Tarantino runs, as you can tell from the helpful sign in his front yard.
Who is Marvin? Who's the guy that seems to congratulate Jules and Vince when he comes to pick Marvin's body up? Why do I care about either? Why are Jules and Vince seemingly being exonerated and honored if Marvin's death wasn't supposed to happen? Who the fuck is Marvin?
Oh and something about stolen gold or something. I gotta admit, I don't give a shit what's in the box. I don't care if it's the award Tarentino wanted to win, I don't care if it's Marcellus Wallace's soul.
By the way it isn't: The whole "It's Marcellus Wallace's soul!" theory originated from fanboys trying to pretend the movie is deep. I've looked into the "Oh he has that thing on head, and in this one culture that means your soul was removed!" and the only time I've seen that referenced while looking into to get more details is in.. descriptions of Pulp Fiction. Why would I care if it was?
Marcellus Wallace is the biggest "tell, don't show" in all of fiction. We're supposed to believe he's the baddest motherfucker who ever lived, and we see no evidence of that. Actually we see the exact opposite happen, he gets raped by some hillbillies in a scene that only exists for shock value. Then he just tells Bruce Willis (who I still have no idea why he's in the movie at all) to leave town.
Oh I'm so scared....
I might care if it's the diamonds from Resevoir Dogs, simply because that's a much better movie as things actually happen in it.
I'm fine with counter-culture and subversion, it's just I'd like for there to be some kind of point, some kind of payoff. If the movie doesn't give a shit, I shouldn't be expected to either.
If the point of the movie is that it doesn't have a point, there are much better films that do that.
For God's sake; Freddy Got Fingered is a better film that does that, and that's not a compliment to Tom Green. At least FGF doesn't pretend that it demands or even deserves my respect, therefore as an audience member I feel less insulted by comparison.
Fuck now I'm gonna have "Daddy would you like some sausage?" stuck in my head all day.
I probably saw it in the right age when I was able to appreciate the randomness, I don't know whether I would still like it now. What I do know is I really enjoyed your passionate description of the plot with all it's flaws, that was a fabulous read!
man back when disney acquired lucasfilm i was all optimism. R1 was good, TLJ was good, the rest of what they've churned out is crap, and the Filoniverse shows have been the absolute worst of it.
Disney has no understanding of the phrase "Franchise fatigue"
I just really can't bring myself to care about Star Wars or Marvel when a new show is announced every day, the quantity over quality mindset is showing. I still haven't found a single Marvel show that I liked.
Wandavision was good for a couple of episodes, but then it stopped being a quirky look at the history of Television with some mystery implying a bigger story, and became about S.H.I.E.L.D doing S.H.I.E.L.D things... I can just tell someone at Disney saw the first few episodes and went "Why are you doing something different!?! We need to be boring and predictable."
Cause I know what "Someone wanting to cook, but then they were stopped" looks like, and it fucking looks like Wandavision.
As for Star Wars, Mandolorian was cool, but then it JUST. KEPT. GOING. Long past the point of my giving a shit.
The only Star Wars show that I really vibed with was Acolyte, but that got cancelled to make another season of Andor. Skeleton Crew looks alright, but why watch it if it's just going to get canned because "Whoops we put minorities in it, and now the Alt Right's bitching at us." like Acolyte did?
Obi-Wan was.. Alright. Expectations were low, but it had a few things I liked. I loved the use of the Sith dudes from Rebels, and I will admit, one of my favorite Star Wars moments does come from this show. It's when Obi-Wan and Leia get a ride from some dude who's basically the Star Wars version of MAGA.
When the Stormtroopers caught Obi-Wan in a lie, accidentally calling his "daughter" Leia, and he has to come up with a lie to cover for it. That lie being that Obi-Wan is suffering from trauma and is prone to reliving the past, so he called his "daughter" by the name of her late mother by mistake.
I like that, that's a cool emotional moment where Obi-Wan despite his intent being deception, is being more honest with himself and Leia than he's been in quite some time. That's a sweet moment, it's clever, and it's a rare scene in mainstream media of a male character being allowed emotional vulnerability without being the butt of some joke.
But that's just one neat scene in a sea of bullshit.