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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards @lemmy.dbzer0.com macniel @feddit.org

So I was just banned from starcitizen@lemmy.ml for no apparent reason?

So I try to make heads or tails of this situation. I got randomly banned from a community where I posted a youtube video showing something from a Convention. Then I wanted to post a question today but realised that I couldn't since I was banned. That community is sadly the biggest of all Star Citizen communities (the next one would be from lemmy.world)

I took a look at the Mod log and see the following line in it:

So no clean up of violating comments or posts, just a strict out ban.

The community has a pretty standard ruleset:

further, the moderator @Rumblestiltskin@lemmy.ml hasn't posted anything since a year, so what gives here, or was it some other mod that was able to declare the ban?

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  • Hey folks, I just had an amazing idea: a drinking game. Drink a sip when someone gets banned from lemmy.ml, under rule #1, for criticising either Russia or China. Two sips if there's no reasonable way to interpret it as criticism against the populations, only against the State or corporations.

    ...nah, bad idea. You'll ruin your livers.

    Serious now. After checking the modlog, it's clearly a PTB (power-tripping bastards) case. The nearest of something bigoted that I could find in the modlog was

    Conspiracy theorists, Populists and Putin Dick sucker will run with this for sure.

    This is bad not because you're criticising Putin, or Trump, but because of the expression itself. Even then, it's more of a "Watch your language, you're being homophobic", not grounds for a month long ban. And let us not fool ourselves, this likely had zero impact on your ban.

    • Well, there was something about encouraging assassination, though it was two months ago. Possibly the admins were noticing a pattern of behavior and just decided to hell with it.

      So imho the chief issues here are perhaps more related to transparency, explaining what happened - OP had no idea even? - and why (as in precisely which rule), rather than trying to guess if it was justified or not, especially since we can no longer see all the linked stuff (unless someone has admin privileges and wants to look).

      Edit: also, I just had... significantly more than a sip, of 70 proof whiskey, so apparently I knew that you were going to say this? Yeah... we'll go with that:-).

      • I saw that entry. It was in lemmy.world, not .ml, and given the target of the joke I don't think that the .ml team would care about it.

        So imho the chief issues here are perhaps more related to transparency [...]

        Yup, pretty much. They never communicate properly who is removing the content / banning the user, and why. And they clearly don't want to. (Perhaps the .ml admins are waiting for the devs to implement transparency features into Lemmy /s)

        • Good point.

          Before I saw the /s my brain was cracking up ... uh, the .ml admins are the devs tho?!?!?!

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          And they have actively taken steps to prevent people from finding how who did what action. Only authority figures admins can see some of that now, while the rest of us just see "mod". In fairness, it does protect a mod team against aboose.

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          Though it shifts the balance of power away from the worker/peasant/user-class and upwards to the we-are-all-equal-but-some-of-us-are-more-equal-than-others-who-are-supposedly-also-equal class. You know, the principles of "communism", where famously we are all equal except the handful of rulerz above us all?

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          But as I mentioned elsewhere, it's their software, and they can - and WILL btw - make it work however they want to. We are the ones who choose to use it... or not.

    • IMO even in this case, he's not criticizing them for sucking dick, he's criticizing them for sucking Putin's dick. Those two things are not the same - one is potentially homophobic (if directed at male users), but the other is more of an indictment of users who are happy to swallow Putin's constant stream of disinformation than it is a criticism of anyone's sexuality. I get that some folks have trouble parsing the difference though.

      • IMO even in this case, he’s not criticizing them for sucking dick, he’s criticizing them for sucking Putin’s dick

        Yup, and that's an attenuating factor, alongside what ArcaneSlime said. It's no grounds for a ban, at most a "pls watch language" scolding.

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