Trump says Ukraine is 'demolished' and dismisses its defense against Russia's invasion
Trump says Ukraine is 'demolished' and dismisses its defense against Russia's invasion
Former President Donald Trump says Ukraine should have made concessions to Russian President Vladimir Putin instead of going to war with its invading neighbor.
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You were slinging insults at me from the very beginning when you called me an accelerationist, stupid, etc. You still cannot point to even a single word in a single comment where you explained anything. What a ridiculous conversation, why would you prefer to argue so much over whether you've explained your position when, if you had, you could simply point to where you explained it? Because you didn't explain it, so this is all you've got. Who are you even trying to fool at this point?
Not at all cry baby.
I've explained it literally every time, you can disagree with the explanation but you can't say it didn't happen or you prove yourself a liar.
I explained it the first 5 times, I'm not going to do it every 15minutes for the rest of my life. You aren't willing to accept reality, we've gone over this so I'm not going to bother explaining it anymore. Simply refer back to older comments, history and I dunno an encyclopedia maybe, I'm not sure but that's at least the right direction.
If I haven't explained it why are you even trying at this point and getting downvoted into oblivion.
I conclusively proved that everything I said is true 300 times. I will refuse to point to a specific comment or quote a single line where I did it once, but it definitely, 100% happened. So, that outweighs your 5 times easily. And before you try to say you explained it 301 times, I proved you wrong infinity+1 times.
Or we could not just say bullshit and actually back up our claims, with the expectation that if you claim to have done something, you can point to a specific line on a specific comment where you have done so. I'd prefer to do that, but if you wanna go with bullshit, then fine, I just don't know why either of us is still here then.
At this point, even if you could point to anywhere where you supposedly explained your reasoning, I would demand an explanation for why you've wasted so much time evading the question. This has been a completely unreasonable and unacceptable response to an extremely basic question. All you had to do was answer once and we wouldn't be doing whatever this is.
Once again, trying to have a serious, substantive discussion with a .worlder proves impossible because y'all compulsively lie and do not give a rat's ass about evidence, and when someone catches you doing it you just call them "crybaby" for calling it out.
Your friends aren't conclusive dumb dumb. Also no you haven't even tried. What exactly makes you think Russia won't invade again. Simple as.
You haven't provided anything dumb guy, you provided your feelings that fly in the face of facts.
Literally, the last what 15 comments dumb guy.
Trying to have a conversation usually involves , you know. Involvement. Now you won't shut the fuck up about your idealistic fucking feelings but won't listen with your goddamn face to facts that are unpleasant to your dipshit idealist stances.
Also I called you a crybaby because you were literally crying about name calling you started.
Lol I'm not going to continue this conversation as if you didn't spend the last 15 comments evading a simple question and lying by saying you already answered it.
Trying to talk with you is literally like Monty Python's argument clinic sketch.
"Is this the right room for an argument?"
"I already told you five times."
"No you haven't! Where?"
"Yes I did. I did it before."
"No, you didn't. When, where?"
"Yes I did. I said it before."
Absolute clown.
It's a simple question. They've invaded twice in twenty years both resulting in treaties they've broken. What exactly is the reason they will not invade again this time outside of your goddamn feelings.
Stop trying to change the subject to evade the question. How did you get from a definition that says "Isolationism is when you oppose intervention in foreign countries" to, "Opposing intervention in Ukraine is only isolationist if you are Ukrainian?" What exactly is your reasoning that brought you from point A to point B, and, furthermore, where are the "five times" that you laid out this reasoning? Give me every single one of the five or admit that you're wrong. I'm not going to continue the conversation and just allow you to weasel your way out of that, I will not engage on any other point until you answer that.
That's the literal subject of this discourse, you're trying to change the argument lol.
Right, that's the original subject, then you said, in relation to that subject, that my stance wasn't isolationist, and then you completely refused to defend that point while repeatedly lying and claiming that you had already defended it, you just won't show where, for some reason. And now you're trying to pretend that none of that even happened and return to the original subject to weasel your way out of admitting that you were wrong, because that's the only thing you can do at this point.
You could have just allowed that my stance was isolationist and still disagreed with it. But instead you chose to dispute applying a completely neutral term to me, on no basis and for no real reason either. Literally just the guy in the argument clinic disagreeing with everything the other person says just to be contrarian and never supporting your points.
So long as you refuse to admit that you were wrong on that point and that you lied when you claimed you had explained your reasoning, you are blatantly arguing in bad faith. There's no point in discussing anything else because even if I conclusively proved my position, you could just say, "Nuh uh" like you did there. If you're unwilling to concede even the smallest point like that when you don't have anything resembling a leg to stand on, then why on earth would I move on to anything else with you?
It is. It's not, it's idealist because you ignore really.
If you can't answer the simple question I've stated about a dozen times now your point isn't facially logically and can be discarded because of it.
What makes you think given the history of invasions in less than 20 years that Russia will simply stop and not invade again.
Simple, just answer the question and stop hiding behind the rest of your crybaby bullshit.
Sorry, what part of the definition of isolationism you provided said anything about idealism? I don't see any reference to idealism in the definition you provided or anything that could be construed as a reference to idealism. So even if your claims that my position was idealist and ignorant of reality were correct, you have still not explained in any way how it isn't isolationist.
Other that that part, literally all you have is "no it isn't," straight from the argument clinic.
As for the rest, as I said, I refuse to engage with you on any point until you either justify your absurd claim or admit it was wrong, and I already explained why.