{"comments":[{"comment":{"id":17720397,"creator_id":165860,"post_id":33974545,"content":"Have you tried sending USR2 kill signal to Emacs when it freezes? That should break and show a stack trace.","removed":false,"published":"2025-11-04T20:31:29.016018Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://lemmy.world/comment/20315763","local":false,"path":"0.17720397","distinguished":false,"language_id":0},"creator":{"id":165860,"name":"madnificent","banned":false,"published":"2023-06-12T09:40:48.271682Z","actor_id":"https://lemmy.world/u/madnificent","local":false,"deleted":false,"bot_account":false,"instance_id":65477},"post":{"id":33974545,"name":"How to run tramp without risking emacs (avoid freezing)","body":"I think one of my package is interacting wrongly with TRAMP and it is too often freezing. It is difficult to debug as it freezes totally and quite annoying as I cannot interrupt with C-g. Are there options to run tramp in a way it does not collapse the whole emacs? I could then try to guess which package interact with it by deactivating/activating them...\n\nIt seems to work properly if I open emacs with emacs -Q","creator_id":21803676,"community_id":4058,"removed":false,"locked":false,"published":"2025-11-04T15:30:09.747735Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"ap_id":"https://lemmy.ml/post/38505319","local":false,"language_id":37,"featured_community":false,"featured_local":false},"community":{"id":4058,"name":"emacs","title":"Emacs","description":"Our infinitely powerful editor.","removed":false,"published":"2020-01-18T02:35:49.944386Z","updated":"2023-06-07T20:40:21.824726Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"actor_id":"https://lemmy.ml/c/emacs","local":false,"icon":"https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/Zr3DSFDxu9.png","hidden":false,"posting_restricted_to_mods":false,"instance_id":195,"visibility":"Public"},"counts":{"comment_id":17720397,"score":2,"upvotes":2,"downvotes":0,"published":"2025-11-04T20:31:29.016018Z","child_count":4},"creator_banned_from_community":false,"banned_from_community":false,"creator_is_moderator":false,"creator_is_admin":false,"subscribed":"NotSubscribed","saved":false,"creator_blocked":false},{"comment":{"id":17726635,"creator_id":21803676,"post_id":33974545,"content":"> USR2 kill signal\n\nI thought it was doing the same in all my computers, but now I realize it is working flawlessly on my work computer (it is usually the one I connect to more than the other way around). So I will have to wait to come back home to test... Thanks!","removed":false,"published":"2025-11-05T08:25:02.338387Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://lemmy.ml/comment/22052752","local":false,"path":"0.17720397.17726635","distinguished":false,"language_id":0},"creator":{"id":21803676,"name":"antoniovr","banned":false,"published":"2025-11-04T09:07:50.604342Z","actor_id":"https://lemmy.ml/u/antoniovr","local":false,"deleted":false,"bot_account":false,"instance_id":195},"post":{"id":33974545,"name":"How to run tramp without risking emacs (avoid freezing)","body":"I think one of my package is interacting wrongly with TRAMP and it is too often freezing. It is difficult to debug as it freezes totally and quite annoying as I cannot interrupt with C-g. Are there options to run tramp in a way it does not collapse the whole emacs? I could then try to guess which package interact with it by deactivating/activating them...\n\nIt seems to work properly if I open emacs with emacs -Q","creator_id":21803676,"community_id":4058,"removed":false,"locked":false,"published":"2025-11-04T15:30:09.747735Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"ap_id":"https://lemmy.ml/post/38505319","local":false,"language_id":37,"featured_community":false,"featured_local":false},"community":{"id":4058,"name":"emacs","title":"Emacs","description":"Our infinitely powerful editor.","removed":false,"published":"2020-01-18T02:35:49.944386Z","updated":"2023-06-07T20:40:21.824726Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"actor_id":"https://lemmy.ml/c/emacs","local":false,"icon":"https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/Zr3DSFDxu9.png","hidden":false,"posting_restricted_to_mods":false,"instance_id":195,"visibility":"Public"},"counts":{"comment_id":17726635,"score":2,"upvotes":2,"downvotes":0,"published":"2025-11-05T08:25:02.338387Z","child_count":3},"creator_banned_from_community":false,"banned_from_community":false,"creator_is_moderator":false,"creator_is_admin":false,"subscribed":"NotSubscribed","saved":false,"creator_blocked":false},{"comment":{"id":17735540,"creator_id":21803676,"post_id":33974545,"content":"I got this:\n'''\nDebugger entered--entering a function:\n* tramp-signal-hook-function(quit nil)\n accept-process-output(# nil nil t)\n tramp-accept-process-output(#)\n tramp-wait-for-regexp(# nil \"\\\$^\\\\|\\0\\\$[^#$\\n]*///c5b98e39a5efa59d7bdf1c6d253a5711...\")\n tramp-wait-for-output(#)\n tramp-send-command((tramp-file-name \"ssh\" nil nil \"hostname\" nil \"/home/username/Documentos/PFCs\" nil) \"test -d /home/username/Documentos/PFCs 2>/dev/null;...\")\n tramp-send-command-and-check((tramp-file-name \"ssh\" nil nil \"hostname\" nil \"/home/username/Documentos/PFCs\" nil) \"test -d /home/username/Documentos/PFCs\")\n tramp-run-test(\"-d\" \"/ssh:hostname:/home/username/Documentos/PF...\")\n tramp-sh-handle-file-directory-p(\"/ssh:hostname:/home/username/Documentos/PF...\")\n tramp-sh-file-name-handler(file-directory-p \"/ssh:hostname:/home/username/Documentos/PF...\")\n apply(tramp-sh-file-name-handler file-directory-p \"/ssh:hostname:/home/username/Documentos/PF...\")\n tramp-file-name-handler(file-directory-p \"/ssh:hostname:/home/username/Documentos/PF...\")\n dired-file-name-at-point()\n #f(compiled-function (end) #)(9487)\n font-lock-fontify-keywords-region(8176 9833 nil)\n font-lock-default-fontify-region(8243 9743 nil)\n font-lock-fontify-region(8243 9743)\n #f(compiled-function (fun) #)(font-lock-fontify-region)\n jit-lock--run-functions(8243 9743)\n jit-lock-fontify-now(8243 9743)\n jit-lock-function(8243)\n line-move-1(1 t)\n line-move(1 t)\n dired-next-line(1)\n (while (< (point) subdir-end) (dired-details-make-current-line-overlay cache) (dired-next-line 1))\n (let ((cache (list (car dir-and-pos))) (subdir-start (cdr dir-and-pos)) (subdir-end (1- (dired-get-subdir-max dir-and-pos)))) (goto-char subdir-start) (dired-goto-next-file) (while (< (point) subdir-end) (dired-details-make-current-line-overlay cache) (dired-next-line 1)) (setq dired-details-internal-overlay-list (cons cache dired-details-internal-overlay-list)))\n (if cached-overlays (dired-details-frob-overlays t) (let ((cache (list (car dir-and-pos))) (subdir-start (cdr dir-and-pos)) (subdir-end (1- (dired-get-subdir-max dir-and-pos)))) (goto-char subdir-start) (dired-goto-next-file) (while (< (point) subdir-end) (dired-details-make-current-line-overlay cache) (dired-next-line 1)) (setq dired-details-internal-overlay-list (cons cache dired-details-internal-overlay-list))))\n (let ((cached-overlays (assoc (car dir-and-pos) dired-details-internal-overlay-list))) (if cached-overlays (dired-details-frob-overlays t) (let ((cache (list (car dir-and-pos))) (subdir-start (cdr dir-and-pos)) (subdir-end (1- (dired-get-subdir-max dir-and-pos)))) (goto-char subdir-start) (dired-goto-next-file) (while (< (point) subdir-end) (dired-details-make-current-line-overlay cache) (dired-next-line 1)) (setq dired-details-internal-overlay-list (cons cache dired-details-internal-overlay-list)))))\n (lambda (dir-and-pos) (let ((cached-overlays (assoc (car dir-and-pos) dired-details-internal-overlay-list))) (if cached-overlays (dired-details-frob-overlays t) (let ((cache (list ...)) (subdir-start (cdr dir-and-pos)) (subdir-end (1- ...))) (goto-char subdir-start) (dired-goto-next-file) (while (< (point) subdir-end) (dired-details-make-current-line-overlay cache) (dired-next-line 1)) (setq dired-details-internal-overlay-list (cons cache dired-details-internal-overlay-list))))))((\"/ssh:hostname:/home/username/Documentos/\" . #>))\n mapc((lambda (dir-and-pos) (let ((cached-overlays (assoc (car dir-and-pos) dired-details-internal-overlay-list))) (if cached-overlays (dired-details-frob-overlays t) (let ((cache (list ...)) (subdir-start (cdr dir-and-pos)) (subdir-end (1- ...))) (goto-char subdir-start) (dired-goto-next-file) (while (< (point) subdir-end) (dired-details-make-current-line-overlay cache) (dired-next-line 1)) (setq dired-details-internal-overlay-list (cons cache dired-details-internal-overlay-list)))))) ((\"/ssh:hostname:/home/username/Documentos/\" . #>)))\n (save-restriction (widen) (mapc '(lambda (dir-and-pos) (let ((cached-overlays (assoc ... dired-details-internal-overlay-list))) (if cached-overlays (dired-details-frob-overlays t) (let (... ... ...) (goto-char subdir-start) (dired-goto-next-file) (while ... ... ...) (setq dired-details-internal-overlay-list ...))))) dired-subdir-alist))\n (save-excursion (save-restriction (widen) (mapc '(lambda (dir-and-pos) (let ((cached-overlays ...)) (if cached-overlays (dired-details-frob-overlays t) (let ... ... ... ... ...)))) dired-subdir-alist)))\n (lambda nil \"Make an invisible, evaporable overlay for each fil...\" (interactive) (if (memq major-mode '(dired-mode vc-dired-mode)) nil (error \"dired-details-hide can only be called in dired mod...\")) (if dired-details-debug (progn (let ((b (get-buffer-create \"dired-details-debug\"))) (append-to-buffer b (point) (point-max))))) (save-excursion (save-restriction (widen) (mapc '(lambda (dir-and-pos) (let (...) (if cached-overlays ... ...))) dired-subdir-alist))) (setq dired-details-state 'hidden))()\n ad-Advice-dired-details-hide((lambda nil \"Make an invisible, evaporable overlay for each fil...\" (interactive) (if (memq major-mode '(dired-mode vc-dired-mode)) nil (error \"dired-details-hide can only be called in dired mod...\")) (if dired-details-debug (progn (let ((b (get-buffer-create \"dired-details-debug\"))) (append-to-buffer b (point) (point-max))))) (save-excursion (save-restriction (widen) (mapc '(lambda (dir-and-pos) (let ... ...)) dired-subdir-alist))) (setq dired-details-state 'hidden)))\n apply(ad-Advice-dired-details-hide (lambda nil \"Make an invisible, evaporable overlay for each fil...\" (interactive) (if (memq major-mode '(dired-mode vc-dired-mode)) nil (error \"dired-details-hide can only be called in dired mod...\")) (if dired-details-debug (progn (let ((b (get-buffer-create \"dired-details-debug\"))) (append-to-buffer b (point) (point-max))))) (save-excursion (save-restriction (widen) (mapc '(lambda (dir-and-pos) (let ... ...)) dired-subdir-alist))) (setq dired-details-state 'hidden)) nil)\n dired-details-hide()\n (progn (dired-details-hide))\n (if (eq 'hidden dired-details-last-state) (progn (dired-details-hide)))\n (cond (dired-details-state (if (eq 'hidden dired-details-state) (progn (dired-details-hide)))) ((and dired-details-propagate-flag dired-details-last-state) (if (eq 'hidden dired-details-last-state) (progn (dired-details-hide)))) (t (if dired-details-initially-hide (progn (dired-details-hide)))))\n (save-restriction (widen) (dired-details-delete-overlays) (cond (dired-details-state (if (eq 'hidden dired-details-state) (progn (dired-details-hide)))) ((and dired-details-propagate-flag dired-details-last-state) (if (eq 'hidden dired-details-last-state) (progn (dired-details-hide)))) (t (if dired-details-initially-hide (progn (dired-details-hide))))))\n (save-excursion (save-restriction (widen) (dired-details-delete-overlays) (cond (dired-details-state (if (eq 'hidden dired-details-state) (progn (dired-details-hide)))) ((and dired-details-propagate-flag dired-details-last-state) (if (eq 'hidden dired-details-last-state) (progn (dired-details-hide)))) (t (if dired-details-initially-hide (progn (dired-details-hide)))))))\n dired-details-activate()\n dired-readin()\n dired-internal-noselect(\"/ssh:hostname:/home/username/Documentos/\" nil)\n dired-noselect(\"/ssh:hostname:/home/username/Documentos\")\n run-hook-with-args-until-success(dired-noselect \"/ssh:hostname:/home/username/Documentos\")\n find-file-noselect(\"/ssh:hostname:/home/username/Documentos\" nil nil nil)\n find-file(\"/ssh:hostname:/home/username/Documentos\")\n dired--find-file(find-file \"/ssh:hostname:/home/username/Documentos\")\n dired--find-possibly-alternative-file(\"/ssh:hostname:/home/username/Documentos\")\n dired-find-file()\n funcall-interactively(dired-find-file)\n command-execute(dired-find-file)\n'''\n\n\nI have replaced hostname and username with those words instead. What do you think? May it be the tramp-wait-for-regexp or the dired-find-file. I don't know whether last things before the kill -12 are on the top or on the bottom...","removed":false,"published":"2025-11-05T21:09:34.876934Z","updated":"2025-11-05T21:12:00.786862Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://lemmy.ml/comment/22064408","local":false,"path":"0.17720397.17726635.17735540","distinguished":false,"language_id":0},"creator":{"id":21803676,"name":"antoniovr","banned":false,"published":"2025-11-04T09:07:50.604342Z","actor_id":"https://lemmy.ml/u/antoniovr","local":false,"deleted":false,"bot_account":false,"instance_id":195},"post":{"id":33974545,"name":"How to run tramp without risking emacs (avoid freezing)","body":"I think one of my package is interacting wrongly with TRAMP and it is too often freezing. It is difficult to debug as it freezes totally and quite annoying as I cannot interrupt with C-g. Are there options to run tramp in a way it does not collapse the whole emacs? I could then try to guess which package interact with it by deactivating/activating them...\n\nIt seems to work properly if I open emacs with emacs -Q","creator_id":21803676,"community_id":4058,"removed":false,"locked":false,"published":"2025-11-04T15:30:09.747735Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"ap_id":"https://lemmy.ml/post/38505319","local":false,"language_id":37,"featured_community":false,"featured_local":false},"community":{"id":4058,"name":"emacs","title":"Emacs","description":"Our infinitely powerful editor.","removed":false,"published":"2020-01-18T02:35:49.944386Z","updated":"2023-06-07T20:40:21.824726Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"actor_id":"https://lemmy.ml/c/emacs","local":false,"icon":"https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/Zr3DSFDxu9.png","hidden":false,"posting_restricted_to_mods":false,"instance_id":195,"visibility":"Public"},"counts":{"comment_id":17735540,"score":1,"upvotes":1,"downvotes":0,"published":"2025-11-05T21:09:34.876934Z","child_count":2},"creator_banned_from_community":false,"banned_from_community":false,"creator_is_moderator":false,"creator_is_admin":false,"subscribed":"NotSubscribed","saved":false,"creator_blocked":false},{"comment":{"id":17749943,"creator_id":165860,"post_id":33974545,"content":"I did not receive a ping because it was a nested comment (TIL)\n\nI tend to start digging into the source (with `M-.` to jump to definitions and `M-,` to pop back). I also tend to break, press `c` to continue, then break again and see if I'm still in the same spot. I don't see much wrong with this. It looks like you're opening a file on a remote host and it seems to be rendering these files. Perhaps that always happens.\n\nI do see an advice `dired-details-hide`. I vaguely recall there being an issue with something with pretty dired (but I think that was with `all-the-icons`).\n\nIt could also be that tramp's connection broke. Then call `tramp-cleanup-this-connection`. Something else is probably going haywire, but using ssh's ControlMaster and reusing the sockets can help with slowdowns then. Using tramp is always going to be slower due to the connection, yet if something freezes it's probably a package interfering and here possibly fontification.","removed":false,"published":"2025-11-06T20:51:57.029441Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://lemmy.world/comment/20353408","local":false,"path":"0.17720397.17726635.17735540.17749943","distinguished":false,"language_id":0},"creator":{"id":165860,"name":"madnificent","banned":false,"published":"2023-06-12T09:40:48.271682Z","actor_id":"https://lemmy.world/u/madnificent","local":false,"deleted":false,"bot_account":false,"instance_id":65477},"post":{"id":33974545,"name":"How to run tramp without risking emacs (avoid freezing)","body":"I think one of my package is interacting wrongly with TRAMP and it is too often freezing. It is difficult to debug as it freezes totally and quite annoying as I cannot interrupt with C-g. Are there options to run tramp in a way it does not collapse the whole emacs? I could then try to guess which package interact with it by deactivating/activating them...\n\nIt seems to work properly if I open emacs with emacs -Q","creator_id":21803676,"community_id":4058,"removed":false,"locked":false,"published":"2025-11-04T15:30:09.747735Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"ap_id":"https://lemmy.ml/post/38505319","local":false,"language_id":37,"featured_community":false,"featured_local":false},"community":{"id":4058,"name":"emacs","title":"Emacs","description":"Our infinitely powerful editor.","removed":false,"published":"2020-01-18T02:35:49.944386Z","updated":"2023-06-07T20:40:21.824726Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"actor_id":"https://lemmy.ml/c/emacs","local":false,"icon":"https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/Zr3DSFDxu9.png","hidden":false,"posting_restricted_to_mods":false,"instance_id":195,"visibility":"Public"},"counts":{"comment_id":17749943,"score":2,"upvotes":2,"downvotes":0,"published":"2025-11-06T20:51:57.029441Z","child_count":0},"creator_banned_from_community":false,"banned_from_community":false,"creator_is_moderator":false,"creator_is_admin":false,"subscribed":"NotSubscribed","saved":false,"creator_blocked":false},{"comment":{"id":17922341,"creator_id":7762126,"post_id":33974545,"content":"The top is where you interrupted it, and the bottom is the last interactive command you entered, `dired-find-file`.\n\nI'm curious what the output and return value of the command `ssh hostname 'test -d /home/username/Documentos/PFCs'` is. That is what you interrupted when you sent the signal, it was waiting for a response.","removed":false,"published":"2025-11-19T15:50:50.627058Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/17922341","local":true,"path":"0.17720397.17726635.17735540.17922341","distinguished":false,"language_id":0},"creator":{"id":7762126,"name":"midribbon_action","banned":false,"published":"2024-03-04T00:53:43.023083Z","actor_id":"https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/u/midribbon_action","local":true,"deleted":false,"bot_account":false,"instance_id":171},"post":{"id":33974545,"name":"How to run tramp without risking emacs (avoid freezing)","body":"I think one of my package is interacting wrongly with TRAMP and it is too often freezing. It is difficult to debug as it freezes totally and quite annoying as I cannot interrupt with C-g. Are there options to run tramp in a way it does not collapse the whole emacs? 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