stephen01king @ stephen01king @piefed.zip

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We're talking about the difference between government owned payment processors and for-profit ones when it comes to solving the issue of them giving undue influence to online stores.

Your argument for supporting goverment owned payment processors is that it shouldn't be solved within this lifetime because that's better? Wtf are you talking about?

When we win this one back, I think VISA should restrict you specifically from buying any porn games.

Here comes the American way of doing things. And you wonder why I don't trust the US government to not immediately misuse their power if they actually own payment processors. Thanks for proving my point.

Tell me when you guys finally get free healthcare and sane gun control laws.

How about something simpler, then? Get back to me when you guys finally stop funding Israel's genocide.

Even easier? Get your government to stop vetoing any UN resolution for a ceasefire in Palestine.

Show me how easy it is to change your government's mind. I'll wait.

The US goverment can't make porn illegal in another country. A US owned payment processor can force other stores in other countries that uses their service to save money to ban porn as well. You're just advocating for giving governments of wealthier countries more control over smaller ones. I say no thanks to that nightmare scenario.

Why don't you prove your government can do their job and prevent payment processors from being such massive monopolies and maybe I'd trust that they won't immediately abuse their power.

Because they can't make it illegal in another country. I'm sure plenty of countries would just use US or China owned payment processors rather than spending money to set up their own. This would just give them more control over other countries than they already have now.

Well then, I guess you actually don't care that porn games are being removed from the stores right now because having the government be in charge will require you guys decades before such decisions can be overturned, just like how long the fight for free healthcare and sane gun control is taking in the US.

Maybe some governments are more receptive to their citizens plea than the US government, but most governments are definitely still in the pocket of people with big money.

So you admitted that people have succeeded in adding loopholes to the US government that makes all your argument no longer true, and you think they still should be allowed handle payment processing? To me it just sounds like you're arguing for transferring the power from one corruptible party (for-profit payment company) to another one (the government).

It would be easier for the government to actually regulate payment processors so they don't become so big that they can influence online stores that use them than preventing people in governments from turning corrupt and misusing the control over payment processes. Even then, the US government has failed to do the former, so how do we expect them to do the latter?

Your government representative only has a voice in the government, but they don't control it. Calling for profit companies en masse pushes your message directly to the people in charge who are scared of losing profits over this.

Tell me, when has calling your representatives ever resulted in a change in government policy within a reasonable time span? How often does a government do a major change in policy without you needing to vote someone out first?

So you expect governments like the Trump administration or Saudi Arabia will less likely block porn games than for profit companies?

You do realise this happened because thousands of people called the payment processors to complain about it, which means with thousands of people, you can pressure these companies to change their mind again. Try doing that to your own government, let alone a foreign government.

A for profit company can be replaced with another and is more easily affected by boycotts. A goverment is neither easily replaced or influenced by people from other countries.

Do you really think most governments will administer payment processes in a transparent and democratic manner?

What you said applies to most celebrities and CEOs, other than the ridiculous white clothing part. Hopefully you realised that the world has always worked that stupidly.

Which part of the internet can you host these shows on that would have a large reach and still not owned by piece of shit?

What do you mean? He didn't get fired, so none of them had any problem with him falling asleep at work due to his anemia. Sounds like they have his back just fine.

That one might be a bit NSFW.

So your cost should overwrite safer streets, less congestion for people who do drive, and less noise and air pollution for people who don't even drive? What a selfish person.

The same also applies to paper money.