Reddit says it's made $203M so far licensing its data
Reddit says it's made $203M so far licensing its data
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In other news, spez's compensation from reddit last year was $193 million, and it's COO got a cool $93 million.
C'mon, spez, tell us again how horrible it's been that reddit's never made a profit.
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So Reddit charges users to create content (paid premium or by showing ads). And then it sells that content.
Making money both going and coming.
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And it also asks reddit users to invest in reddit
loool
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I wonder if there is any legal standing for users to sue Reddit for a fair share of those profits. That’d be nice if it could happen. But i suspect, probably not.
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Their TOS says they own your content in any current or future formats or derivative works.
I’d say Reddit would win.
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Their TOS says they own your content in any current or future formats or derivative works.
Their ToS could say they own you and your children and grandchildren, but that doesn't make it enforceable.
If I post a frame from the movie Akira on Reddit would any reasonable person suggest that they own not only that frame, but also the entire movie that it came from as a derivative work? There is a glut of second-hand data just like that all over Reddit, Twitter, and every other social media network, and I'm willing to bet that's also part of what's being sold.
But hey... I'm not saying you're wrong, just that the idea that they automatically "own" the things that people post on their website is ridiculous. It's a bit like UPS or FedEx saying they own the contents of your package while delivering it.
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Yeah, probably not. When you sign up and agreed to their ToS, they don't "own" your content, but you grant them a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use it without compensation.
From their ToS:
Any ideas, suggestions, and feedback about Reddit or our Services that you provide to us are entirely voluntary, and you agree that Reddit may use such ideas, suggestions, and feedback without compensation or obligation to you
Source: A pretty good post on r/HFY, though it is on Reddit, so don't click it if you don't want to :P
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But how many TOS have been shot down because they over reach? I don’t know. You’re probably right. It it’s still fun to imagine.
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... and thats why Wikipedia is non-profit.
Seeing human (even shitpost) achievements get monetized (in the most sucky manner) one by one is sad af.
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Lmao the ratfuck CEO is making his money alright. What a little weaseling coward. He spend so long jealous of his co-founders who got paid and left early, that he probably sees this as his gold parachute.
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I hope my fuck Spez comments are useful.
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Now AIs will fuck Spez for all eternity.
Millennia from now Fuckspez! will be the standard greeting between all sentient species in the galactic federation. It will be even used in machine code as a handshake for establishing initial contact between two subspace relays.
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Reddit says it's made $203M so far licensing
itsour dataFixed that for them.
There's your "tragedy of the commons" fallacy on a stick, folks - the proles where managing reddit so well that huffman had to break it in order to make it more vulnerable to the parasites.
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It's data?! You mean our data
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This is helpful of them, once the EU court fines them, we can quickly calculate how much that will be.
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These are totally the signs of a stable and profitable company.
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I wonder if they will ever consider paying the users for the content they provide that constitutes "its" data. 🤔
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The users get a service that costs hundreds of millions to maintain for free.
And no one is forcing them to post valuable content without compensation.-
Well there's apparently more than 400 million active users every month, so they could charge users a few cent per month and pay for the infrastructure entirely. But they choose to be massive privacy invading assholes.
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This was my attitude until reddit took away my app. Now the site is the poster child for enshitification
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Pay? They are trying to "stonk" Reddit users by asking them to buy stock for the IPO which screams "We want your data and your money!".
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Yeah. They are giving the users the "privilege" to buy shares at the open market rate. Not even at discounted rates. Again US only. What about the others? They just give their data I suppose.
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Where's my cut?
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what, you didn't get the email offering the special stock price?
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A good reminder to go back and edit all your comments to [removed] if you didn't do so when you first left.
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I did, and then also deleted my accounts. I can't believe how much bot content is on there now.
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Probably doesn't matter, but this is why I deleted my account instead of just locking it up.
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With google being the partner i bet the deal wont mention they cant use older backups of reddit that they most certainly have.
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This is why we need better data laws in the US. If I want everything I've ever said on your site to disappear both instantly and forever, I should have that option.
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I'm sure you're right about that. All parties involved are scumbags, after all.
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Spez will be happy to know his payout is covered, company is still going to be broke though.
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For everybody who thinks we should get paid for our data, you may want to consider the Data Dividend Project:
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Damn, might be a US-only thing then.
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"its data".
Ah yes... of course.
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They need to pay the users with that money
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Good thing they monetized their API.
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time to go edit all my old comment with random garbage generated by chatgpt
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It is probably way too late for that to make any difference, no?
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Probably, but one thing I learned too late in my life is that by being cynical you're assured to never get anything done
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Literally the only way they could become profitable.
I'm honestly more upset at this deal (I think it was google?) than the CEO pay thing, which is all stock options and mostly ragebait.
I expect to see them last 3-5 years and get bought out by some bit tech firm, all current execs take their payouts, sell their shares and retire.
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who knew my old shitposts are worth that much
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Reddit doesn't own that data. The community owns it.
Maybe there's something in the terms of service but that shouldn't hold water because nobody has ever read that document.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
Earlier this week, Bloomberg and Reuters reported that a “large unnamed AI company” — possibly Google — had entered into a licensing agreement worth about $60 million on an annualized basis.
“[Our] data APIs are able to provide real-time access to evolving and dynamic topics such as sports, movies, news, fashion, and the latest trends,” the prospectus continues.
“We believe that Reddit’s massive corpus of conversational data and knowledge will continue to play a role in training and improving large language models.
Content producers, from stock media libraries to news publishers, are increasingly turning to data licensing agreements with AI vendors as chatbots like OpenAI’s ChatGPT and Google’s Gemini threaten to sap traffic.
Vendors, in turn, have been spurred to pursue licensing agreements as they face a deluge of lawsuits alleging that they have no legal justification for training their models on data without permission or payment.
OpenAI, for one, has agreements in place with image gallery Shutterstock as well as publishers including Axel Springer, the owner of Politico and Business Insider.
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Our data, you mean?
Correct, our data.