Samsung smart fridges have started displaying ads
Samsung smart fridges have started displaying ads
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Yes, and I am tired of seeing posts about smart fridge ads. Let the dumb people that bought a fridge with a TOC and internet connection see the fucking ads.
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Technology could be so awesome, and this is what they do.
I love technology. This is complete policy failure. Big Tech must be annihilated.
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The underlying problem is capitalism, not technology per se. It's the "Big" part.
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That's why I support Free Software movement
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Well yeah, it's a fridge with a spacious screen and an Internet connection in the 2020s. Of course they'd capitalize on all that advertising real-estate. And of course they'd wait until after people have had them for a while. They're unsurprisingly shameless.
I'd be curious to know what kind of data it's collecting to optimize those ads.
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Using some of the wifi connection tricks companies have, it can probably associate the device with all the devices your family has and the corresponding data
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A quick scan of Mac addresses would be enough. I'd be shocked if it didn't. Then there's ip address correlation, which, while it has more steps, is probably easier. Then, of course, you log into your fridge with an email address ....
And at this point I'm just going to pause and reflect on how absurd that sentence is to someone from 2010 or earlier.
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I imagine it goes like this:
- Fridge gather nearby SSIDs
- Samsung partners with Google/Meta
- Cross reference SSIDs with the ones being collected from Android devices/Meta apps
- Get advertising IDs from devices likely in this house
- Profit
Or, and much much cheaper:
- To continue configuring this fridge please install this app via play/apple.
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Samsung smart fridge disable ads
Turn off ads smart fridge
Jailbreak samsung smart fridge
Open source smart fridge software
Fridges for sale near me
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Advertising must be the worst human invention ever.
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It often feels like violence.
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All thanks to John Advertising.
We know because that asshole told everyone about it and his services.
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really sucks, but like did we not expect this to happen?
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we did
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Why would you expect this to happen?
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Because they did it on every other item they sell with a screen and internet connection.
It's nitnjustbthatbthey show ads, it's that they track you and show you ads based on that data.
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It's an internet connected appliance with a screen, made by samsung. If you follow the right kinds of news, that combination should send shivers down your spine.
Edit: l'll just say I don't think the question was so dumb it should downvoted to hell.
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Because we've seen 30 years of the Web? Because streets used to be (and some sill are) nothing but a place to put up billboards and ads? Because corporations are led by psychopaths and they care absolutely nothing about your well-being or personal health in your home?
OF COURSE if they can put an ad in your kitchen they'll by all means put an ad in your kitchen. It's literally the goal of giving out brochures and pamphlets of ads: to make you take the ads into your home. Why are there brand names on everything? It's advertising all the way down. Giving them an Internet-connecting screen they control in your kitchen is just asking for ads to be displayed in your private space.
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It’s a Samsung.
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Because Samsung has done this to literally every one of their other products, even ones without screens, and only apps, like Samsung SmartThings and their washers and dryers.
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They scammed people for years with their phones.
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What else would the screen be for? Even if there was another valid reason, why wouldn't they put ads on it? It's easy profit or unused real estate in their eyes.
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We've been paying attention?
Or to put it more nicely: no one finds this side of the fediverse without feeling at least a little burned by corporations.
Edit: to be clear I never meant it as rude, just a little sarcastic.
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They make fridges, which typically sit in a room until it decides to die. Shareholders got pissy the enormous bill for ecs doesn't have the correct permissions
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Yeah I actually never expected to have an LCD billboard up inside my home.
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If you Dont LIKE THIS you're a TERRORIST!
-Trump's NPSM-7 which Classifies ANTI CAPITALISM as Terrorism! FREEDOM!
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Why on earth would anyone buy this garbage? The only advanced feature I'd like would be a crushed ice dispenser.
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This is me.
I just cant imagine wanting a fridge to do anything other than keeping things cold.
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My guess is to "digitalize" the sticky notes that people put on fridges. Its ment to be a billboard for the famially unit to itself! Advertizers getting inbetween and editing your note to selfs is gross!
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Time to re-read Cory Doctorow's "Unauthorized Bread". I thought it was satire and way over the top, but reality keeps catching up.
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Wouldn't be surprised if you popped it open to disconnect the screen, the cooler would stop working.
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How long till stuff starts working on mobile game logic?
Next free fridge door unlock:
02:59:58🌟 Unlimited unlocks £19.99
⏩ Watch an ad to unlock early-
Don't forget the premium subscription and NFT.
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Drink a verification can to continue
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$1.99 to freshen your fruits and vegetables $4.99 to freeze your meats $0.99 to make ice cubes $1.99 to cool your drinks $11.99 to make water
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how about this, you only get 100 closing/opening of the fridge door a month. the freezer will cost you extra to open and close. it will start charging an "overstuff fee, if the vent/ fridge gets clogged with food.
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Ad supported fridge would not be awful if you get it for free or very low price. I wouldn't buy it but for some lower income people could be a good alternative.
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Delete this post.
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Your fridge is cooling for 13 more hours watch two ads now to get 4 more hours.
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Ew. I'd build an ice box or live out of coolers.
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Rossmann has a take on this (and several on DRM and similar).
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To that I say, why in the hell would you buy a smart fridge in the first place? That's on you for buying something that stupid.
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it will become like many appliances... You want a dumb tv? Possible, but it will cost you more than a smart one. You want a dumb fridge? Fine, but soon it will cost you more than a 'smart' one you can't even turn on without making an account somewhere and registering your email and phone
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In theory a smart fridge could be useful.
If it automatically scanned everything you put inside, it could tell you what ingredients you had if you were planning a recipe. If you were at the store you could know what to buy. It could warn you before something reached its expiry date, or remind you what leftovers were still uneaten. Depending on how much you trusted it, it could learn what you always buy, and add them to your shopping list when you were running low, or even actually order them.
In theory this could reduce food spoilage and wastage, and could save you money in the long term. It requires trust though. Samsung is obviously mistreating users by showing them ads. But, it could be much worse. The fridge could order food that the user didn't need, or if it ordered food Samsung could strike a deal with one company and always prefer their brands even when there were cheaper options. And, of course, Samsung could sell your buying habits to Google and Meta who would use it to more effectively target you with ads. Or, Samsung could cut a deal with insurance companies to tell them which users had unhealthy eating habits so the insurance company could deny coverage or hike rates.
The big issue here is section 1201 of the DMCA. If that didn't exist, someone could open up a business installing a new, custom, privacy-centric OS on people's fridges. But, with section 1201 in place, that's illegal and you could be thrown in jail for performing that service. Even outside the US laws like that exist because the US insisted on them on condition that otherwise the US would force those countries to pay high tariffs. Of course, now the US is jacking up tariffs regardless. I have no idea why no country has yet repealed their equivalent of section 1201. Whichever country does it first will have a huge advantage.
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I remember when fridges with screens were first becoming a thing, and one way they tried to sell them was the convenience of being able to leave notes, shopping lists, photos, etc.... for other members of the family. And even back then, before the advertising apocalypse, I remember thinking, what in the actual fuck makes this 1000 dollar feature any more useful than a 20 dollar magnetic white board and a dry erase marker?
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And the ultimate outcome of that was, at one point Google enacted some kind of API change which necessitated Samsung to push out an update to remain compatible, otherwise all of your Google enabled features such as the calendar syncing, email, etc. would stop working. Samsung claimed to be developing a patch for this, and ultimately pushed out an update to... only some of their models. For the others, their response was literally just, "We recommend you buy a newer refrigerator."
But since that was going on for ten years ago now, information about it on the Internet is a trifle difficult to find because the search results have largely been overshadowed by Samsung's more recent smart fridge fuckup. Grand.
Never buy a Samsung appliance.
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I actually think a multipurpose digital screen could be quite useful and fun on a refrigerator, not needed or necessary at all but I think in a less enshittified timeline an open source version of this, possibly even an e-ink screen, could actually be nice. It would make far more sense as a whiteboard type object that you attach to your refrigerator though and obviously this entire concept is predatory on so many levels it is mindboggling.. but the idea of having a sort of communal digital screen on a refrigerator isn't a bad idea itself I don't think as hard as it is to imagine a reality where an appliance like this was designed in good faith.
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100%. It's a matter of where does the technology stop being about "useful for us" and starts being "useful for them".
A digital whiteboard would be a good feature (not 'necessary', but cool). It's when they decide it needs to be connected to the internet that it becomes "is this technology serving us...or serving them" that's the problem.
I'm not anti-tech at all. Quite the opposite. But I remember the mid-2000s when all of this tech was getting off the ground and it was being innovated and invented for OUR benefit, not for the corporations. That's when this kind of stuff was fun.
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But you can buy a tablet and use magnets.... Cheaper and upgrable. Like there's no reason to physically combine something that lasts but a fraction of a quality fridges life.
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Because you must consooooooooom. Don't think, just spend. See shiny "useful" feature, open wallet.
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It's depressing to notice just how much pop culture from teh 80s onward was trying to warn us about this coming shittorm. It's like, as soon as Reaganomics came on the scene, there were those who immediately saw it for what it was and started fighting. (Punk Rock, Literature, Movies, etc...) and it wasn't enough. No one paid any attention and we are now where we are because as a culture we got sucked into chasing more shiny shit at the expense of our own good.
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Fuck this
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It's kinda coincidental to have all three conglomerates in that picture: Sony producing that TV show, with advertisement paid by Apple TV to Samsung.
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I still don't understand any benefit from having a screen on my fridge... but now I hate them, thanks Samsung
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Being able to see the contents without the inefficiency of opening the door or having the problems of a translucent door or doing admin work could be cool. But now I hate them too. So glad we have no "connected" kitchen gear yet except Tasmota switch and power monitoring sockets.
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I just find it astonishing that Samsung still makes appliances... Considering how awful they are at doing it, and how much money they have to lose for the dozen+ warranty repair visits they inevitably have before ultimately refunding the device.
Maybe thats why they have screens, So their appliance division can finally turn profit by advertising you until their device dies
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I think their appliances are a lot like the rest of their tech. If you get a good one it's solid for years and years, but God help you if you get a shitty one because their customer service is garbage.
Also idk what crack or other drug their engineer was on that designed the ice box in my freezer but it literally is made in a way that constantly causes problems with ice build up and not being able to dispense ice because of it.
But I will say all the rest of my Samsung appliances and even the fridge aside from that ice box bullshit have been going strong.
I think they also have crap quality control, it reminds me a lot of anything Alienware I've owned. Still using a mouse from 15 years ago but also had a keyboard from them die right around the one year mark and it was impossible to get any help from their support.
While I'm ranting huge shout out to turtle beach who's customer support and care was exceptional. My dog chewed through my headset wires and they shipped me a new one no cost.
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Do they? Or do they just have someone else do all the design and manufacture like every other brand these days.
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Ads. That’s the benefit. That’s the only possible one.
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FYI there is a setting to disable ads. Doesn’t excuse them for introducing ads in the first place, but at least it’s a solvable problem (for now).
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If we're here to solve it, another solution is not to connect it to your network.
I don't know why someone would want the internet on their fridge.
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Let me guess, it's opt out?
I think it's interesting where we are reaching an inflection point with technology where I pity the bs the next generation is gonna have to put up with this shit when the stockpile of old tech without this bs is gone
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why does a fridge need a computer and a screen?
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The burning question on the hearts and minds of everyone who isn't a complete dolt since these things came out
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I did a little "is shit rotting in your fridge?, also inventory" thing for senior design. It was a cursed project for a variety of reasons, but even what we did was a stretch in terms of utility.
If only we had known that the girl that came up with the idea was actively detrimental to everything she was even adjacent to
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So they can show you ads. Obviously 😌
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I keep racking my brain on this one. Unless it's doing advanced things like automatically tracking fridge inventory and helping build shopping lists, there's literally no point. Analog controls work fine, even for fancier fridges with integrated ice makers.
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why does anything aside from a computer?
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At least they don’t lock the fridge until you watch an ad.
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...yet.
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If that happens, then this should be upgraded to Majorly Infuriating.
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Nothin a good crowbar can’t solve.
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Imagine your name really is "Carol", then you wake up one day and see this shit
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I know people are doubting this happened but I'm pretty sure it's a symptom of paranoid schizophrenia to think that one's electronics are trying to speak to you.
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It'd be really funny if your name was Carol
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There was a reddit legal advice post recently with that premise. Poster's sister was a schizophrenic named Carol, who checked herself into an inpatient mental facility, after seeing this ad on a smart fridge, and thinking her treatment was failing and she was slipping into another episode.
Brother was wondering if they had grounds to sue over treatment costs.
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Item 11. 🫠
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I would return it.
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I never understood why anyone would buy one in the first place. I like home automation where it makes sense (like having some of my bedroom lights and my coffee maker tied to my phone alarm in the morning) but why would anyone ever tie their fridge to the internet?
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In theory it would be cool to track inventory automatically for restocking, and you could have an app where owner can pay things to the fridge for the rest of the family to see.
In practice nobody would use that app, whiteboards are more fun, and it would never be able to tell what’s in containers of leftovers.
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I never understood why anyone would buy one in the first place.
Because fucking idiots buy anything with a screen, over anything with a slightly smaller screen.
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if they return it, or trying to scrap it, the customer would have to admit to themselves they bought an overpriced FRIDGE that couldve cost less than a thousand. its like the smart beds that malfunctioned a while ago when aws went down.
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or a smart oven, someone that would buy a smart fridge would buy smart appliances. there was a post on reddit where someone complained about thier smart oven not working because it cant connect to thier internet.
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I might put some zigbee door sensors on my fridge so I can get an alert when it's left open. My 3yo has learned to open the freezer and while it does make a noise, so do a lot of things in my house so I might not notice straight away. Maybe an internal temperature sensor as well? Ok, now you've got me thinking, imma turn my fridge into a T1000 but at least it won't try and sell me anything.
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I only like home automation in the sense of "light goes on if something moves" because that works offline.
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...To the manufacturer. The retailer's not going to take it back, and even if you did manage to bully them into taking it somehow that's still allowing the retailer to shield the manufacturer (i.e. Samsung) from the consequences of their actions. And consequences are what Samsung needs to see over this.
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I would be so pissed if I bought one of these. I’d probably smash the screen in rage.
I knew this would happen though.
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Anyone who bought into this crap kind of deserves it at this point.
I keep my appliances dumb AF because I have half a chance at repairing them should something break.
There are also fewer points of failure.
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no. nobody deserves to be scammed.
yes they should have known better and did not, but they did not deserve it.
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Yeah, but some people didn't opt into it. I've worked on a lot of new construction in my state and they buy these appliances for every new apartment complex they build. I know people could choose a different apartment, but most people don't have any other option and saying "no" to a decent apartment because of a refrigerator isn't a luxury people can afford.
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The way things are going …if you want a new fridge at an affordable price the ones with ads will be your only choice. This is peak late stage capitalism with no consumer protections or anti monopoly practices in place
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People need to start using technology to improve their life and society. Stop using Windows, Google, Apple, download an adblocker, and don't buy into tech consumerism like "smart fridges." All I would want to know in a fridge that would be "smart" is like the temperature? and I wouldn't sacrifice my time or attention by buying something which forces ads.
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after seeing pluribus that ad has a whole new meaning
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Nothing a good roll of duct tape can’t solve.
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its like it requires internet conneciton, or some kind to make the fridge work.
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If you bought it without ads and it started showing ads, that would be a breach of contract.
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They probably get around this from some clause in the terms and conditions... Yep... Terms and conditions for a fridge.
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you didn't sign.
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You don't own the software on your $2000 fridge, read the EULA.
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Imo this is not so much infuriating as it is just straight up ridiculous.
Don't bloody buy smart appliances. If you happen to have one, switch off its connectivity. If you insist on local connectivity, isolate it from the web. If you insist on using the internet connectivity of your home appliance then you deserve every bit of the nonsense that is thrown at you-
Once smart appliances become the only way to make profit competitively, dumb appliances simply won't be made. Why would anyone invest in it if smart appliances make more money through these methods? Arguably, we are already very close to this reality.
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I mean what do you expect…?
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Just wait until buggy malware worms its way into these things and the screen just shows kernel panics in an infinite loop.
Edit: or worse, somebody hacks it to play random hardcore porn videos.
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l buggy malware worms its way into these things
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Will they shows ads for basic LG fridges?
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"Sorry we upset you"? What did it pick up on for it to say that?
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It's an ad for the tv show Pluribus. It's basically a quote from the show.
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that's what you get for buying assmung. they've shown time and time again that they'll do ANYTHING for an extra buck.
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I would return it
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Come on it's the 21st century where is your refrigerator electromagnet? Looks like it is very needed.
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...Uncle Albert has nothing on you, Carol...
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To be more accurate, the ads only appear in specific cases where idiots were dumb enough to buy a fridge with a screen.
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This is a repost. We did see that in this community or another one a week + ago.
Found it
lemmy.world/post/38772979
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Soooo many reposts
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Okay that one single ad about Pluribus is quite funny, especially being displayed on a fridge, but other than that, it’s NO.
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thats what a nailgun and particle board is for.
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Or just don’t give your fridge wifi access. Then the fridge still at least works as a fridge.
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True.
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That comma is unnecessary and introduces ambiguity to the sentence, which is the opposite of what commas are supposed to do.
For example, who is the dumbass?:
Have a good weekend dumbass!
Have a good week, dumbass!
Have a good week,
Dumbass!
Who is Carol?!? The addressed, or the addressee? (I'm not actually an English expert so may be wildly incorrect)
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You’re wildly incorrect, according to every major style guide.
If you’re critiquing widely accepted rules of English grammar, your critique may be valid.
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Honestly I'm not sure if I'm critiquing widely accepted English grammar because it seems kinda like the serial comma (some use, some don't), but I don't know the name for it.
The NY Times piece on commas doesn't cite any sources and gives examples with and without based on Byzantine rules I highly doubt anyone follows, and the OWL doesn't seem to cover this specifically.
So... any idea what this particular type of comma is called that I'm wrong about but would like to persuade others that I should be right?
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hey this is the internet we don't care if its correct we care if it sounds
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i'm not judging for having this abomination, but black tape, all the way down
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internet explorer bro
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I would merely hate this and curse the manufacturer. But I know that if it were in my house, my kids, with their raw, unhardened minds, would find it irresistible. The slogans would worm their way into their everyday speech. They would talk about new ads over breakfast. They just don’t have the filters we adults have. So I’m so fucking glad I don’t have anything like this. It’s beyond mildly infuriating to truly insidious.
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The damn thing is probably reading the barcodes too.
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just...why...? I...I have no words. also what's with the reposts chill bro people will see it
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The things Samsung has to resort to, to be able to afford ram for its phones after Samsung cut Samsung off from it's supply.