Who do the ACAB rules apply to?
Who do the ACAB rules apply to?
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Abby is a character designed to give cops/federal agents a good PR makeover. As sweet, vulnerable, firey and lovable as she is, the reason behind her character makes her AB.
The actor doesn't appear to be a bad person through.
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acab includes paw patrol
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Including Paw Patrol?
Especially Paw Patrol.
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friends don't let friends raise their kids on the police state
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Seriously if anyone has kids, have them watch some of the shows on PBS Kids. Most are far less annoying than the slop Disney's been producing for the 2-6 age group, and all are far more educational.
Like, Daniel tiger is annoying but at least teaches good stuff (I've literally referenced it while teaching my kids something to help reinforce), but there's some really good shows on there like Molly from Denali, Alma's Way, Hero Elementary, Wild Krats, and Carl the Collector. Better paced, better animation and a million times better writing, plus they all happen to be shows from different human perspectives than just a random talking mouse or talking dog teaching a corporate-approved malaise
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I've had to sit through several episodes and a couple of movies. Never once have they cleaned up their own messes.
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Paw Patrol is Copaganda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwhUpu9MfZ0
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ACAB includes the Zootopia rabbit
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Dude, if you look at Zootopia objectively, remove all the personal connections and relationships to the characters... (spoilers ahead)
Judy was hired through a DEI-type program (assistant mayor Bellweather mentioned something about a "mammal inclusion initiative" that got her hired), which is normally a good thing, but they kind of play it like that's the only reason she got a shot at being a cop. Bunnies aren't cops in this world. The police academy was specifically designed for larger, more powerful mammals. Judy had to circumvent traditional training protocol and use her cadets' power and size to assist her in order to graduate.
She goes off-book on her first day. Chases a supposed criminal, causing all sorts of mayhem and damage across town. Insubordination against her boss. But she doesn't get fired, thanks to her political connections.
When she's given a high-profile case to work (again, thanks to connections with the assistant mayor), with no resources to access, she partners with a known shifty scam artist off the street. Blackmails him with tax fraud to cooperate (instead of turning him in). Coerces him to climb a fence so she'd have "probable cause" to investigate the area without a warrant. Basically finding loopholes to circumvent official processes.
She also manages to become part of the family in the local mafia. After a single visit to the mafia, she becomes the godmother of the mob boss' granddaughter. She even uses them later to intimidate a witness to make him talk. Literally threatens to murder the suspect if he doesn't talk!
Then there's the fact that she single-handedly caused the fall of two separate regimes! First, she takes down the mayor for kidnapping predators, then she takes out the next mayor for causing predators to "go savage."
Then she gets the shifty scam artist hired into the police force as her new partner!
From an outside perspective, she's an extremely crooked cop that abuses her position, uses political connections to get her way, makes exceptions for criminals to gain access to police resources, and violates the rights of citizens. ACAB definitely applies to Judy.
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What about rule 34 Zootopia rabbit?
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All dogs go to heaven. Except the class traitors of paw patrol
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Rin Tin Tin? :(
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In regards to paw patrol, I feel that
- The cop dog is constantly saving the day even by doing other dogs' jobs even when he shouldn't be stepping in
- There are no clever stories in that universe
- Every single problem they face could be permanently solved by a Belgian Malinois with a Barret 50cal
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Tbf every problem except being a free unincarcerated person and having too many dead bodies can be solved with a Belgian Malinois with a Barret .50 cal
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The entire show is written so lazily it's just another form of slop. I have a paw patrol book we got at a garage sale where one windmill at a windmill farm stops spinning because one of the blades broke causing a power outage, so they use a surf board as a replacement blade and the day is saved. Literally not how any of this works and they could've spent 5 minutes researching windmills and made an actually educational story but instead they went for slop.
Y'know how they could've written it to be more educational? Maybe one of the windmills had a motor issue and the power flickered due to the frequency being off, so they first go to the substation and switch off the power flow from the wind farm to just pull in from other sources, then they repair the windmill motor then restore the connection from the wind farm. Its still lazy, it doesn't teach much but it at least doesn't teach kids that if they see a stopped windmill to panic that there will be a power outage.
There's also literally an episode where the paw patrol gang influences an election. The villain was set to win the local election so the paw patrol gang goes into an advertising blitz to drown out the bad guy's underdog (hehe) campaign but it's all okay because the Right Person won the election! I saw this one while my kids were spending time with their trump voting grandparents
Every time my daughter asks for Paw Patrol I say "nope we're not watching copaganda" and I look forward to whenever she repeats that to people. When the kids are older I'll probably explain to them about slop vs quality shows. Like, I've learned things from the kids watching Curious George, like what should and shouldn't go into compost bin or to just use a pair of pliers when driving a nail so you don't risk hitting your fingers. I want my kids watching shows that actually help them understand the real world, not just slop that's made to mesmerize them with pretty colors and catchy lines then turns around to sell them a line of merch
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Does ACAB include former-detective Monk and Shawn Spencer?
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What about the janitor Mom lady from High Potential who assists cops?
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ACAB includes Captain Raymond Holt from Brooklyn 99.
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they literally shut down the show because of BLM (as in, they didn't want to do copaganda anymore due to BLM opening their eyes)
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How dare you
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He is a character meant to uphold the idea that the system can be changed from within while making the police force out to be a kookie fun place.
A fun show, at least until season 5 started explaining the punchlines, but it’s not without issue.
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They're out of line, but they are correct.
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i love brooklyn 99, and this is still true. i have another comment in this thread giving a deeper breakdown. the nypd partnered with b99 for a reason. i think at the end of the day the two messages that go out with b99, the creators and the equipment owners, the creators' messaging surrounding racial equity, found family, and queer acceptance comes across stronger than the equipment owner's messaging that not all cops are bastards. but you still have to engage with that the nypd cooperated on that show for a reason, and it's worth talking to less critical viewers about that no, sophia is not a monster, you fucking dipshits. what she says about defense attorneys is outright true, and the prevailing online opinion that she's a terrible person is not shared across the spectrum (this is literally an opinion i've only ever encountered with one real life person and with redditors at large)
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ACAB includes B99
(Except Rosa, she quit)
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I heard (don't remember where, could be true, could be right out of someone's ass) that the reason the show ended is many of them started feeling bad about doing a light-hearted fun show about cops. Basically the actors all started feeling like Rosa.
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- The writing staff literally threw out their scripts and rewrote the final season to try addressing the climate surrounding police violence.
- Stephanie Beatriz tweeted that any actor who makes high number residuals from producing copaganda should donate part of their checks to organizations combating police violence and corruption—she included a screenshot of her $11,000 donation to a couple of charities.
- On the show, her character, Rosa, literally stated that George Floyd was the reason she couldn't continue working as a cop and instead became a PI who investigates corruption on behalf of civilian victims.
- The cast and crew collectively donated $100,000 to combat police corruption and violence.
- The main villain of the final season was lawyer or union leader or whatever who enabled and encouraged police corruption, citing anti-white hate and how it's racist to call someone racist.
- I think it was Terry Crews who said in an interview that the show considered how it could possibly evolve into less problematic first responders or something, but that anything other than pointing out their issues and ending the show felt wrong. I can't remember exactly what was said, and I'd already spent far too much time reading interviews to refresh my memory.
- Andre Braugher reflected on his career of copaganda and how he himself had fallen into the trap of how the media sweeps the police problem under the rug.
I'm sure there's other stuff, but I've already spent an inappropriate amount of time on this comment.
Fin.
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Who's Rosa?
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I think the final season had some nods to that.
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Jake quit to be a stay at home dad.
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acab includes both bowser and blitz
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I was going to say poor doggo, but its a robot doggo and AI is evil too, so its extra bad.
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Does ACAB include judge Dred?
He is technically a judge.....
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Imma be pedantic about this one: judges are not in the same part of the three separate parts of power as the police (at least commonly in democracies). Technically they are supposed to keep the cops in check and be a neutral independent instance.
In reality: most judges are bastards too if you have any qualm with the police, because that often translates to problems with state authority which includes them as well, which more often than not makes them allies to the cops.
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In Dredd's universe a "Judge" is a cop, judge and executioner.
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Judge Dredd is an exploration of the British and American legal tradition where the judges are not as impartial as they are presented to you. Dredd represents the lived reality that the judge is a tool of the holders of capital
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So they are kind of ACAB+ or ACAB allys
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Acab doesn't cover judges. Doesn't mean they can't be bastards, just means they aren't cops.
A lot of a judges job is making sure procedure is followed. Police and DAs are generally pretty good at the paperwork, and working with them regularly means they have a relationship, which they don't with defence.
I'd say all judges are complicit.
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AJAB
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Dunno about that one. There have been judges slipping immigrants out the back door and trying like hell to keep non-violent offenders out of prison.
Many JAB, maybe even Most JAB, but there are solid good Judges out there trying like hell to bail out the morally corrupt system. A good judge undoes the shit a previous bad judge does.
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does it include lieutenant Kim Kitsuragi from Disco Elysium?
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Please. Delete this. I’ll pretend I didn’t see it
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Both Kim and the protagonist.
I’m on record saying that DE is one of the best reflections on the nature of investigative police work in any medium, but just look at it. Is anyone’s life actually better by the end?
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i would say, this is an example that even decent people cannot change a failed system within. and some situational positive actions can't suppress overall degradation
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Sooooort of. Look at what the revachol citizens militia actually is
But also yes, look at the shit he lets you get away with while being the only obe empowered to stop you.
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my playthrough of disco elysium involved my dubois committing a ton of time to useless shit specifically because ACAB, even if me and this delightful man are those cops. so some simple sabotage is in order. we're just gonna waste a bunch of time doing nothing
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I'd say that's a unique case. The Revachol Citizens' Militia sold out to the Moralintern in exchange for legitimacy and vested authority, but by the end of the game they're about to betray the Moralintern and side with a workers' uprising. Afterwards they'll probably still be a police force, but they'll get their legitimacy from an independent Revachol rather than an occupying force, which is at least better.
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Does ACAB include police dogs?
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No, the good bois are being forced to act as bad bois :(
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Ehh, They're natural predators. They're training them with positive reinforcement to use their prey drive and enhanced senses to do their bidding through a reward system and pack mentality. That's not far enough away from what they're doing to cops in training to call them good bois.
That said, they're also not capable of making ethical decisions, so those treats and the dopamine hit from taking down a prey target is all they have to go on for decision-making.
I'd say they're less cops and more tools. That dog ripping into the arm of a scared young non-white man running for his life isn't exactly a good boi, no is he being forced, but he doesn't know it's wrong.
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Bad Bois bad Bois, what you want, what you want, whatcha gonna do?
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Yes especially Dog Man
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It includes my cat, when she seizes control of her cardboard house and polices it so the other cat stays away. She's a cute bastard, but still a bastard!
Oh wait she's always a bastard, even when not being a cop. Because she can't stop being a cat. So I guess it's more "ACAB" for "all cats are bastards" in her case.
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Does ACAB include Ghost in the Shell's Major Motoko Kusanagi?
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Tell me you haven't read the manga without telling me you haven't read the manga by asking that question…
Yes, it applies to her, like a hundred times over! Coming from someone who disagrees with ACAB. But that woman is just flat out a murderous criminal. The animes really play it down, but
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Lol, I've read It's great btw, I love the footnotes in the margins. And as someone that agrees with ACAB and is pro-abolishment, I knew that the answer was yes before posting.
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yes, though I hesitate to call GITS copoganda as a whole. There's definitely some iterations of it that are, but there's also some that show that the ruling class controlling Section 9 are corrupt, and Kusanagi has to leave the force to pursue justice because the cops can't provide it.
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ACAB includes the two pairs of shoes walking towards the camera in the intro to The Bill in the 90s.
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I feel like ACAB is just like the "all men are rapists". Yes, there are nice men and nice cops. ACAB does not mean that every single one of them is a fascist, but due the the systematic issues surrounding these groups and their behaviour, you as a citizen/woman just can't trust that that this specific cop/man isn't a bad one. Thus, all cops are bastards and all men are rapists, just to be safe.
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Sounds more like justifying reasons to hate without having reasons.
Well the ACAB thing is actually justifiable, people try to keep their ingroup save, even if they don't like specific individuals in that ingroup and understandable people outside that group really really don't like that bullshit which is fair. add to that that Murica's culture is pretty cancerous and voilà.
While on the other hand you have sexist incel rhetoric.
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Maybe they're both absolutist, misleading, and fairly unhelpful?
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The reason ACAB is justifiable is that policing, at least in a modern capitalist society, is so fundamentally broken that to even join the force you have to make a serious moral compromise. You can claim you're fixing it from the inside, you can try to keep to yourself, but no matter what you do, by the act of signing that initial contract of employment you're participating in and materially supporting the violence arm of your local elites.
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i strongly disagree with "just to be safe" justification. fascists use exactly that narrative for scaremongering about minorities, like "all immigrants are dangerous". the main difference between being cop, or being men, or being immigrant is that you actively choose being a cop, whereas nobody asks you to choose your sex or gender, and nobody provides you a citizenship on arrival to a foreign country
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Kinda, but the big difference is being a man is an identity and not a choice, while being a cop is entirely an intentional choice.
So we should be empathetic to the perspective and struggles of women while trying not to demonize men as an identity.
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All Cops Are Bastards
Or
Assigned Cunt At Birth
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All Capybaras Are Best.
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Elisa Maza and Goliath from Gargoyles.
and this makes me sad.
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I guess that depends on whether you consider lab technicians cops.
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Nobody will ever convince me that it applies to Olivia Benson. I'll die on this hill (probably death by cop).
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I'm with you.
That Stabler guy though....
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Pauley Perrette was born in 1969. Solid "suitable for dad" territory.
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Texas TPSA student organization would never let her compete due to their dress code.
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ACAB does not apply to copaganda, by definition.
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ACAB includes:
And many more...
Peter is that you?
It feels like Robocop spent more time fighting other law enforcement than anybody else
thats because it's about the LA riots.
It's a joke!
NCIS is propaganda.
All cop shows are propaganda!
Why is NCIS obsessed with Israel? (Video 1hour)
Even Rin Tin Tin.
So we need cops to dress like goth robo-bunny girls?