Military service will reportedly no longer classify 'divisive' swastika as 'hate' symbol
Military service will reportedly no longer classify 'divisive' swastika as 'hate' symbol
Combine this policy with declaring anti-fascists as terrorists, and I think a pattern is emerging here.
Oh for a moment there I was beginning to doubt the direction of USA.
Well I guess it's still full steam ahead to dismantle democracy and introduce an authoritarian dictatorship.
Brief anecdote. In school, we used to draw swastikas on everything in order to get others in trouble or to make ourselves seem like assholes. At no point did we consider what we were doing ok, it was just kids riding the edge of something they couldn’t understand for the sake of ignominy. Even we, as ignorant as we were, recognized that the swastika was a hate symbol and thoroughly unacceptable, we were, again, just assholes.
I’ve been saying this quite a lot but this culture war bodes poorly.
On a similar tangent, I find hilarity in poorly drawn swastikas - or to use an entertaining but horrendously ablest term, a spastika.
I make no apology for equating the sort of dickhead that scrawls this shit everywhere in adult life with the sort of clueless fuckwit that tests sockets with a fork, and couldn't pour water out of a boot even if the instructions were on the soles.
I don't often like punching down on the lesser-intellectual folk (mainly because I'm dumb as rocks for 23 hours of the day myself) but this is one of the few times I enjoy the opportunity.
Damn been awhile since I've thought about a good old Hale Hortler. Thanks for reminding me that while I might be stupid I at least am better than these fuckwits.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNTIED STATES IS CALLING FOR LAWMAKERS TO BE EXECUTED FOR UPHOLDING THE LAW! WTF IS GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS SHIT?
Take a broom up to the hill and sweep up.
NOTHING AT ALL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE EITHER CONTENT WITH THIS OR TOO COWARDLY TO DO ANYTHING!
Following the double negative rule: Anti Anti Fascists leaves you with
Fascists
The USA is dropping the mask for all the world to see.
AND STILL PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE EVERYTHING IS NORMAL! AT THIS POINT I WANT TO SEE MASS PANIC SO I KNOW I'M NOT CRAZY! AND I'M IN CANADA, I WANT MASS PANIC IN CANADA! I AT LEAST WANT THIS SHIT TAKEN SERIOUSLY ENOUGH THAT CANADIANS STOP FUCKING GOING TO THE STATES AS IF EVERYTHING IS NORMAL!
It would be nice if Canadians would also stop voting for politicians who lead Canada in the same direction as the USA. We need to turn left, not right.
AND STILL PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE EVERYTHING IS NORMAL!
Nope, we'rs not. But I, like many people, am in a marginalized/bum-fuck town. So, my opinion doesn't matter until the polls open. We voted against this evil, and we will again. But, our government wants to embrace the evil.
We can see it wants to. We don't want it to. But, most of us don't matter to the government. We're not big-dollar donors, so our politicians will ignore us. They've minimalized most people so all that we can do is vote against it.
But, with where the Overton window is, we have one party running with regular evil while the other suggests a diet version of evil.
I AT LEAST WANT THIS SHIT TAKEN SERIOUSLY ENOUGH THAT CANADIANS STOP FUCKING GOING TO THE STATES
With how dried up tourism is, it would seem like they're already doing it. Yet, the government is still going down this path. So, it's not that big of an impact.
Honestly, I understand why my parents aren't even panicking, the country we lived in before coming to the US, also had random arbitary policy changes, so... this just feels normal to them, authoritarianism is normal to them.
Any Canadian (or other nationality) still going to the Fourth Reich voluntarily is admitting that they support fascism.
The mask had been poorly held up for ages, people just chose to believe them 'cos Russia bad.
Please put an NSFW tag on that image, it can get you in trouble if you accidentally show it in public in many countries, for good reason.
USAs dream of being USA is taking shape. Never forget the Nazis took notes from US playbook.
Manifesting American values in its true form
https://www.thestoryoftexas.com/discover/texas-story-project/el-paso-holocaust-influence
Instead, the Coast Guard will classify the Nazi-era insignia as 'potentially divisive' under its new guidelines. The new policy, set to take effect Dec. 15, similarly downgrades the definition of nooses and the Confederate flag
Threatening racial lynchings is "potentially divisive" but not hateful, apparently. I guess there are very fine people on both sides of the white supremacist lynchings debate.
Already reversed.
Too late it did what it was meant to do. It told all the Nazis in the USA: "We don't think Nazis are bad, come join us".
but now MAGA can't enlist...
I know its a drama we're past by now but I can't help but think about the people who defended Platner with the line "the military would have stopped him if it was really a Nazi tattoo." Because most of us knew that in fact they would not, and now they have put it in writing.
Platner said that the marines actually rejected his reenlistment for having death's head forearm tattoos (even though he says got it while in the marines and that it was a common tattoo for marines to have) so he had to join the army out desperation. He really was determined to go back over there and kill more brown people.
Although reading it now it seems the marines rejected him for having visible tattoos on his arm.
But I thought he didn't know what it was? So he thought they rejected his reenlistement because of a regular skull tattoo?
Sketchy af
Can you give a source on that or a general direction on where to look? I've heard about the tattoo and looked into it during the initial controversy and did not find that information at the time.
I'm still wondering when time travelers are gonna fix this timeline.
I'm afraid this is the timeline where they dump all the assholes from other timelines
Nazis from the past used the Nazi time machine to travel to the future and destroy our society here in 2025.
I hate how everything about this is makes sense including the fact that if Nazis made a time machine it would just move forward through time at a rate of one day per day.
I've thought about it, and I'm fairly certain that time travelers had to call it quits and agree worldwide to stop it. Like, every outcome was worse than the last. . And, that means that our current trajectory is somehow the least destructive.
Maybe something worse happening in the future has them occupied
Or when the simulation we live in will be declared a failure and we'll get rebooted. Every morning I wake up disappointed.
Yea cause 'muricans organizing and standing up for themselves is certainly not a good idea.
muricans standing up for nazis. Seditious behavior, as the glorious leader would put it. Seems overall very anti-american to me.
In the us, the default country ofc
I hate this so much that politics@lemmy.world, you know the explicitly not-only-US instance, specifically only allows US politics.
wtf
Literally the defining symbol for the term 'hate symbol'.
Hey, what's a hate symbol? Oh, you know, like a swatztika. Ohh, right of course, how could I be so fucking dumb? Jesus CHRIST. Dude, calm down, it's-- NO. PUNCH ME IN THE FACE, I'M TRASH.
Why would white supremacists see swastikas as hate symbols?
Did nazi that coming?🙁.
Please shut the fuck up
I’m definitely not happy about it either. But we don’t need to be mean to each other. I’ll fix it for you with some grammatical assistance. “Please, shut the fuck up!” See what I did there? It’s an example of strangers helping strangers.
Of course Nazis don't think the Nazi symbol is a hate symbol.
That would be like me saying the weed leaf image is a hate symbol.
What the fuck‽
I am all for reclaiming symbols stolen by fascists, but we all know this is absolutely not what they are getting to.
I once didn't shave for weeks on a no-shave November. When I finally shaved I decided to see how I would look like with a toothbrush mustache... and I found that it suited me great! (At least I think it did) but I knew i couldn't have it and I shaved it off.
I wish we could DeNazify that mustache and make it the simple and sometimes whimsical mustache it was in the past.
It would be really great. I HATE shaving that part of my face. Doesn't matter how well I prep or what razor I use. It always hurts. I don't like having facial hair but just that would be tolerable.
"Divisive."
I mean, COME ON guys, lets just meet halfway. They wear swastikas and SS uniforms, and you don't complain anymore, it's called COMPROMISE.
"Don't you see? Those people find civil rights offensive too! Why don't we just compromise and only call klan hoods "divisive" rather than "hateful." That will solve the issue!"
Pretty much every reddit comment section on default subs.
At least before most people got replaced by bots.
It's fucked up how normal (and I say this loosely) and unsurprising this actually sounds in today's world.
If you told me a couple years back that America would openly turn fascist, I would have said you're batshit crazy.
I studied history and have been telling people this for over a decade but most people think I'm batshit crazy.
For the rest of us, we've seen it coming for about 25 years. And we kept telling you.
You got belligerent and started waving your flags harder.
Now you tell us to "worry about your own country" when we say we told you so.
The ones who say to worry about your country are the ones here who saw this for decades as well and are trying to tell you we see the same shit starting all over the place over seas. If you act like you are above it, the same shit will happen to you all. Alot of us unfortunately didnt fight hard enough when we needed to due to thinking most people here weren't as stupid as they are and we are now pretty much fucked. Don't repeat our mistake thinking you have less idiots in your countries, the rot starts beneath the surface first just because you think you've cleaned the surface doesnt mean the infestation isnt festering below. Don't be like us, be 100 times more proactive.
I live there three years in the 90s. I'm surprised it took this long.
Nazis took inspiration for holocaust from manifest destiny, soo...
Hitler assumed USA was going to join them due to the huge German population amongst other reasons...
For context that means a guy like this would now be allowed to serve. They check your tattoos when you come in so this doesn’t qualify as a hate symbol now.
Next thing you know they'll be making this guy Secretary of Defense or something
Clearly the iron cross and confederate flag are allowed already as sad as it is
shit headline, its just the coast guard.
Though the Coast Guard is not part of the Defense Department, the service has been reworking its policies to align with the Trump administration’s changing tolerances for hazing and harassment within the U.S. military," the report states.
fucking clickbait trash
coast guard cant onboard hitler tattoos, fucking twats
great; now hegseth can finally finish his chest tattoo
“It’s going to be a maze”
They have declared that nooses and swatzikas are not hate symbols, time to test that by drawing a picture of a Nazi being hanged I guess
As my high school English teacher once said, "a horse is hung, a person is hanged"
So it's correct to refer to a Nazi being hung then.
They didn't go so far to include the Confederate flag yet. I guess that hits closer to home still, even though the two can sometimes be seen together.
The sign of a true idiot is when they fly either of these beside the US flag.
Instead, the Coast Guard will classify the Nazi-era insignia as 'potentially divisive' under its new guidelines. The new policy, set to take effect Dec. 15, similarly downgrades the definition of nooses and the Confederate flag
Correct, read it wrong, I had seen the rest of the part about it remaining banned except for certain historical works. For now.
Yes, they did, they just can't fly it on a ship.
They’re not “proto-fascists” anymore you naive lemmyworlders.
It wasnt even 24 hours before the the colossal apopcalyptic blowback on this made them reverse their decision.
Now we just have to wonder why they want to make hate symbols okay in the military.. I'm sure its totally not anything to do with trying to build a white nationalist military that will gleefull obey illegal orders and slaughter the "other" in the streets at piggy boys command.
It's cause of the tattoos. Too many Nazis being excluded from the military.
yes, thats basically what i said.
It's FUCKING DHS only.... For some reason they put the Coast guard under the dumbasses at DHS they're the ones who are trying to not see everything how surprising is that really.
Good! MORE Swastikas LESS Rainbows!
-NOT Nazis!
So this one is fine then ? https://www.bhamwiki.com/w/File:Banksy_hanged_klansman.png
If you read between the lines, this is the clearest sign to date how much they're struggling with recruiting for the armed forces.
They want to recruit different people. Less women, people of color and LGBT, more racists. This fits perfectly in that policy.
so what was WW2 all about then?
I thought it was all so videogame industries could have material to use.
That's why we are in need of WW3, so the next call of duty is not a flop like black ops 7
Probably money, like every other war
The fascists in the USA didn't want the competition. Exactly the same reason behind the American "Revolution". The oligarchs of North America hated sharing the spoils with the oligarchs of Europe.
"Opinion is divided on the subject. All the other captains say it is. I say it isn't."
How long before this becomes the official flag of the United States?
That boomerang just keeps coming back around for some reason. Who can explain it? /s
Why don't they declare it as as symbol of love? The love of having power over others, the love of being able to decide who lives and who dies.
Would be a real shame if someone that hung a noose ended up in it.
It is not divisive and it is a hate symbol.
Genuinely absurd that the most famous symbol of hate isn't recognized as a symbol of hate.
I think I see this differently than most. I'm all for this. This would make it so much easier to know who to kick out during the next administration.
What next administration? How is that ever going to happen?
"It's just a Tibetan good luck charm!"
Never did.
If it weren't for people complaining about swastikas I'd almost never see one.
Count yourself lucky, even in my remote village there were botched swastikas spray painted on signs. Most likely teens who don't know what it means, and that's a problem in itself
What IS a fucking hate symbol then????
LGBTQ and trans flags
The American flag.
Flown properly, the American flag can be,
According to these Nazis.
I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir.
A peace sign
Soon the peace gesture with your 2 fingers will be considered an ANTIFA symbol and warrant immediate deportation.
The Mexican flag, probably.
A rainbow swastika (for whatever the fuck reason that would ever exist), that is where the line is it seems.