Well I'm just going to kill myself

Unironically.
Saving Private Ryan came out in 1998.
Matt Damon was born in 1970.
So he was 28. He is now about 27 years older, so about 55.
- Dogma was a fun movie too, especially with alan rickman as metatron.

I know a highschooler that won't watch anything from before 2000, won't watch lotr for other reasons like broken attention span.

A marathon of the extended editions is exactly what they need. Phone locked away during viewing.
- Tied down, eyes fixed open like in Clockwork Orange? I named that setup the appreciation chair.
- Did this with my 16yo a couple months back. She was sick last week and marathoned them again on her own.
  I was so proud
- The fact that we've gotten to the point where looking at little screen is bad so we need to lock it up to stare at big screen, is depressing.
  And I love movies, but the thought of that as a society is depressing.
  But, it's all good FreeVee isn't it?
- I own exactly one Blu-ray set, and got my Xbox series X because it plays blu-rays.
  For the extended edition directors cut of lotr. 12 hours of goodness.
- They'll throw a fit and then sulk if you do that lol
- Yes! Lock the phone! Such a pet peeve
That's like saying "I refuse to drink wines older than 2000." Just because it's old doesn't mean it's good. But, some of the old ones are very, very good.
- If it's old and people still enjoy consuming it, it's probably good. If it's new and people consume it, it's still unproven. The thing about "classics" isn't that anything old is a classic. Anything that stands the test of time is. Old music wasn't better we just stopped listening to the bad songs. Old books aren't better, we just stopped reading the bad ones. Old movies aren't better, we just stopped watching the bad ones.
- I watched Altered States for the first time a few years ago and that one got me more than most modern sci fi. It's a masterpiece imo.
I find myself dreading watching anything made after 2010.
I'm not saying everything is bad, or that everything that was earlier was good. But dang...it seems like a good 90% chance the modern movie or TV show is just a bunch of flashy and disruptive CG, incredibly fast editing to try to compete with cell phones for attention, tons of with clips and one-liners. Everything is poorly lit, the dialogue is inaudible, and all the other sound is way too loud.
And I don't think it's just "things were better back when I was a teenager" bias. I can still find older movies with those some annoying traits earlier, 2010 is just the arbitrary cutoff I'm using here. And I can look back at movies from before I was born, like Hitchcock movies, and see how much better they are at handling a lot of those things.
- Some notable things about much older movies (like Hitchcock): the limitations forced them to work harder at many things.
  Black & white has contrast concerns, no color so you need to imply it in other ways.
  Film costs influenced the length of a movie, so lots of those old movies are shorter, or often limited to 90 minutes. If you wanted to go longer you need to justify the length in film reel units.
  Then you have pre-code movies where what you could show or say was less limited, then post-Code where the dialog suddenly becomes filled with innuendo, and typically fast-paced, so you have to pay attention and get the references.
  I suspect many movies today are produced like pop music - the simpler it is, the broader it can reach.
- same, 2010, is when movies and shows became just SLOP. this doesnt include shows that started in the 2000s but survived into 2010s. cant tolerate the new treks, they are just too bad, aside from prodigy and LOWER decks. also the titles for movies are just lazy asf now. and theres the significant increase in copaganda, military propaganda movies and shows.
I know a woman in her thirties with that same rule. She won't watch the first Matrix movie.
- thats oddly specific, only the 1st one, and not he other 2, the newest one doesnt count.
I finished rewatching all 6 movies yesterday and damn they are long. The last one is fuckin 4h long. But i still didnt have an attention span problem.
There have always been idiots.
tik tok attention span, aka brainrot material. i wont watch any from post 2010 , mostly because they are all slop at that point.

Must suck not allowing yourself to enjoy anything from the past, and only allowing yourself to watch the slop they make today. There's so many great old shows and movies to pick from.

I was with you until you generalized contemporary movies. Great things were made back then and great things are made today. Same for shitty slop.
- You can literally listen to writers, directors, producers, and actors all talk about how cinema now is truly lower quality (including their own work) because it's specifically created to be a background not a center of attention. They specifically make shit for you to have on in the background while you scroll on your phone, this has drastically altered the quality of what is being filmed.
- I literally just watched one of the best films I've ever seen, the Woman in the Yard, which came out this year. It's very similar to one of my favorite films, but in a way that's not at all a ripoff. (I feel it would be spoiling some of the fun to say which.)
- Sure, there's definitely good stuff to be found today as well. I'm just disappointed with the current trend of making remake after remake and reboot after reboot. Original content doesn't get the attention it deserves in comparison.
Red Dwarf!
Right? Imagine not liking fucking Glenn Miller or like Sinatra or basically any jazz. Or ffs, Star Wars.
It was the best of times,
It was the worst of times.
- i had a whiskey drink, I had a vodka drink.

All the movies are older than me :3

i thought they released new movies all the time
- Me too, but apparently they stopped after 2003 :3
I'm 36 and those movies were even boring at the time. Decent stories, but I would never go out of my way to watch them. If you must, watch them once and then move on with your life. I literally can't watch them when people I know want to watch them. It's like torture. Or just read the books.
- I've tried to read the books many times over the decades... Tolkien is verbose for the sake of being verbose.
  FFS, he spent half the first chapter of The Hobbit describing the color of the hobbit's front door - and I'd read over 200 books before attempting The Hobbit.
  (OK, it wasn't half the chapter, but he spent inordinately long on it).
  I refuse to watch the movies.
- i'm 38. lotr was aight. not watching them again.

At least LOTR has not been rebooted every 5-10 years like some Marvel/DC movies.

Even if there's probably someone itching to make a gritty reboot of LOTR.

I mean, look at the source material. One's an epic saga the other's a monthly brochure at the magazine corner shop.
I guess, it fits.
- Lol im definitely calling them monthly brochures from now on
LotR has been done a few times. The Peter Jackson one is just so good that no one wants to be compared to it though. I'd argue that even Peter Jackson's The Hobbit felt so bad because the LotR trilogy was so good. (It was also just bad, but the comparison made it feel even worse.)
Rebooting is a proud tradition in the superhero comic book genre.
also MCU , adding the multiversal arc to the whole franchise,dont need that.

It's still hilarious to me that CGI peaked with pirates of the Caribbean.

Where'd sound mixing peak?
- Up until the release of the iPod. That was the start of the era where record producers would compete to see who could be the loudest song on your MP3 player. Pushing compression to the extreme, squashing all dynamics down to a giant wall of sound that smacks you so hard in the face you get a headache from listening too long. (Look up "Loudness War")
  Things have improved since but it's still not the same as back in the day, when we had to keep tunes dynamic in order to prevent the needle from flying off the record!
- Boston’s debut album.
- Has there ever been a peak?
  There's been many technical improvements, but absolutely none of them have fixed the problem you describe.
  Movie audio was crap in 19th century, and it was crap on the 20th century and it's still crap in the 21st century.

my lord that's depressing lol.

When people think something from 2014 is "old" i laugh in their face as I crank up my 1899 Edison victrola.

Even as a kid I never viewed something old unless it was 60+ years in the past.

That's such a stupid take. The 90s and early 2000s were literally the golden age of feature movies. IMDB has 58 movies rated 8.5 or higher, 24 of those were released in the 15 years between 1990 and 2004. That's about 41.4% and includes classics like Shawshank, Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction and of course the LotR trilogy.

Damn...

Part of what makes the internet wonderful is being able to access movies from all eras. Why limit yourself to only new stuff?

As an aside, the OG Little Shop of Horrors still holds up IMO.

The remake part genuinely fucking offends me.
Right? I am constantly watching shit from before my parents were even born. Shits well done yo
- James Cagney still slaps

Well, we had the Prequel Trilogy so I guess Peter Jackson probably needs to do an entirely unneeded Fourth Age Trilogy or something?

Prequel even harder and pry the Silmarillion rights from the cold, dead bodies of the Tolkien Estate, then run it into the ground with new films, or worse, a TV show.
- Better yet, don't pry the right, so you have to come up with entirely new stories and new characters outside of what you already own the rights to! It'll be great!

Yet another “look at me being all young and shit! Aren’t I cute?” meme. So much traction from these recently.

Everyone should watch the AFI 100.

I wonder if there's truth to the whole iPad generation thing.

Unless a movie is horribly dated with jargon and references, or wildly out of place social issues*, any good movie should still be good.

*even something that has something like racism or misogyny in it might still be worth watching if those issues can be framed as something that should be seen as how we used to do things and why we don’t do them like that anymore.