Trans people of womensstuff, how included do you feel in the LGBT community?
Trans people of womensstuff, how included do you feel in the LGBT community?
June is pride month! The T often gets forgotten or excluded in the LGBT community. How included do you feel?
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I'm not super out or involved in the community beyond here really.
IRL I have both het, bi, and gay friends and they are all very supportive and sweet! So I'm rather happy with that. The progress flag hasn't caught on much here, but I don't know that that means much. Some find it kinda messy visually and prefer just the rainbow.
I've noticed online that there are quite a few "allies" who are only allies to a point; other queer people who don't take us seriously when we talk about the issues we care about and face on the regular and excuse their apathy or transphobia by explaining that they are gay and an ally. I don't know if they are just a vocal minority or a more significant portion of the LGBT than I hope they are. Mostly it seems the LGBT movement is open to including us, at least in theory, so until I am proven otherwise I'm gonna hope that this is actually true, and that we won't be thrown under the bus in the name of respectability politics as we have been in the past. Quite a few stonewall inspired organizations ironically didn't support trans people or those doing drag.
Mostly I am hopeful, even if there is increasing violence and discrimination against us. People are more vocally supporting us now than ever it feels like.
I'm a big fan of just the rainbow it's all of us together. If we expand it to include groups we're by nature excluding some. I see it as we all stand together under the flag.
The silver lining to the anti trans bile is how many people stand with the T because they see what the community is dealing with. I think some of the reason the bile is so bad is people can see the world is changing, trans are accepted more and the bigots feel they're losing.
I think the progress pride flag is an acknowledgement of the unfortunate inequality present in our community specifically. LGBTQ+ has made huge strides in acceptance since the start of the gay rights movement, but most of those benefits have gone to cis and/or white members of the community, while trans people and POCs are the ones putting their bodies on the line for those rights disproportionately. I like seeing the progress flag out and about as a promise that we see those sidelined groups and we will champion their rights as hard as we champion our own. I hope there's a day when we don't need to make that promise explicitly, but I fear it may be a long time coming.
Those are great points! If nothing people should pick the version of the flag that's right for them. Self identification is crucial!
For me there is comfort in knowing for sure that people flying the progress flag support trans rights to some degree, but I do like the rainbow flag too! They fly it all around town in all of June and it really does make me happy to see.
Yes I get that