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That was a fun time, now I'm at the stage of conveying the concept of hobbies that can also be careers and learning for fun
"Why are you in the black window! You're not working!"
"Sometimes the black window is work and sometimes it's my own project I'm doing for fun or learning"
"Why are you learning, you don't go-to school anymore!"
"Because it's fun to learn new things, even when I'm not made to"
"That sounds like work still"
"It's just like work, except I don't get paid, and nobody is helping me."
As opposed to hardly getting paid and nobody helping you.
Sometimes I forget that I'm lucky that my job doesn't suck
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